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  1. 04-18-2006, 09:05 PM #1
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    steroid alternatives

    I just wanted to know some alternatives to steriods if there are any
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    Creatine? Fact is nothing will give you the gains of steroids when they are combined with and what i call the 'anabolic lifestyle' (effective diet, solid training, minimal rec drug and alcohol consumption, adequate sleep)
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    and working out like a beast!!!!
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  5. 04-18-2006, 09:18 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by lane
    I just wanted to know some alternatives to steriods if there are any
    i used legal gear methyl 1 test (m1t). started at 173lbs, weight now 198lbs. been on it for about one year off and on. blows you up solid damm well. it was baned last year, but i bought 17 bottles of it. will last up to ten year stored. my gym still have vpx brand m1t and paradeca for sell.
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  6. 04-18-2006, 09:19 PM #6
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    Take lots of BCAA and glutamine .. J/K of course. You will get the most out of juice but you need to really research before you start. Get your diet and training in check first and see how much you can gain from that alone . Than when you can not gain any more you can decide if you want to juice( after you have researched ) Just my 2 cc's
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    Quote Originally Posted by poloblue
    i used legal gear methyl 1 test (m1t). started at 173lbs, weight now 198lbs. been on it for about one year off and on. blows you up solid damm well. it was baned last year, but i bought 17 bottles of it. will last up to ten year stored. my gym still have vpx brand m1t and paradeca for sell.
    Sorry M1T is a steroid , a hardcore one at that.
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  8. 04-18-2006, 09:26 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    Sorry M1T is a steroid, a hardcore one at that.
    thanks bro never knew that. guess i know why i got so big on it. would this make it my firt cycle .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mindongoal
    and working out like a beast!!!!
    May i say........Bust yo ass @ the gym; eat like a horse; rest; stay away from unnecessary drugs/alcohol....and start again!
    throw in some good suppl......that's it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by poloblue
    thanks bro never knew that. guess i know why i got so big on it. would this make it my firt cycle .
    your first year-long cycle to boot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    your first year-long cycle to boot
    LMAO....is it me or someone is made fun of
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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    Creatine? Fact is nothing will give you the gains of steroids when they are combined with and what i call the 'anabolic lifestyle' (effective diet, solid training, minimal rec drug and alcohol consumption, adequate sleep)
    I second that!
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  13. 04-19-2006, 11:28 PM #13
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    creatine and other supps. besides protein have never worked for me.
    Does anyone think hard and determination will eventually get you to where anabolic steroids can take you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lane
    creatine and other supps. besides protein have never worked for me.
    Does anyone think hard and determination will eventually get you to where anabolic steroids can take you?

    How long have you been training?

    What's your diet like?

    What's you weight..and what's your lean body mass?

    Creatine and other supps are just that.. supplements.. they supplement your regime.

    To say they 'don't work' means something is wrong with that which they 'supplement' .. i.e. your diet and training regime.

    Steroids take you to your genetic potential.. and then some.

    Can you reach your genetic potential without 'em?

    Yes.
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    Why is everybody looking for "Roids like" suppl. I mean, if taken seriously and w/o "the more the better", that's a lot safer than most of "prohormones" or roids like shit, cuz in most case, you'll only get sides and no benefits.

    Unfortunately, there's very little products out there that actually do work as roids. Stuff like PP or HD 50....but we ain't even sure they're not roids derivative....so why bother
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  16. 04-20-2006, 02:45 AM #16
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    I can clear that up: They are steroids . PP is a steroid in its own right and HD50 is a substrate for turinabol
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    what's PP? i may have missed something then!
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  19. 04-20-2006, 05:17 PM #19
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    like these guys said food it the best possible ingredient to mass, once your diet is on youll grow whether you take gear or not..otherwise my training partner is taking 17HD by vyotech..its a natural supplement with plant extracts to boost test levels..his strength is up huge and hes just starting wk 2...
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  20. 04-21-2006, 12:42 AM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    PheraPlex
    Sorry, i didn't mean "what means PP", but what kinda roid is Phera plex??? i'd have known, if it was, well i guess....
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  21. 04-24-2006, 10:38 PM #21
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    Narkissos,
    i'm 21
    6'3 215
    19% body fat (i don't know how accurate that is) im not fat i would say a little leaner than the average college student
    never used a prohormone or steroid
    i did weigh 240(fat), diet and cardio brought me down to 170(really skinny)
    have been working out hard for about a year and a half after i lost weight (went from 170 to 215)
    I eat a lot
    Lots of protein, lots of carbs(no sugar or simple carbs) and some fat.
    Eventually i want to get to a ripped 240 but don't know if thats possible
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  22. 04-24-2006, 10:41 PM #22
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    Oh yeah Testostack I have read from this forum and from the washington post that phera-plex is dmt
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    i'll stick to HD 50 for next time....keep you guyz posted!
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  24. 04-25-2006, 09:13 AM #24
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    Thats cool, I just ordered some Halodrol and waiting for it to get in. I also wanna stock up on some Phera-plex, Methoxy TST, and Superdrol. I heard there is a ban coming. is that true?
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    Yayaya.......all methyl existing at once........and in few weeks you'll buy a brand new liver, right?
    Eazse up on those stuff bro, HD 50 alone is plenty enough already, trust me!
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  26. 04-25-2006, 08:39 PM #26
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    haha no way im taking them all at once. Im hesitant to start just Halodrol. Im just stocking up encase there is a ban. Does anyone know if the gov. will ban any of those i listed soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lane
    haha no way im taking them all at once. Im hesitant to start just Halodrol. Im just stocking up encase there is a ban. Does anyone know if the gov. will ban any of those i listed soon.


    I've bought 4 bottle just in case but i know they already have eyes on it and that like SD, it's gonna be gone very soon!

    Too bad!
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  28. 04-27-2006, 06:48 PM #28
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    yeah that sucks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Testostack
    Sorry, i didn't mean "what means PP", but what kinda roid is Phera plex??? i'd have known, if it was, well i guess....
    It has a sterane skeletone, therefore, its a steroid .

    HD50 - while a steroid - has a hydroxyl group at C3, so technically, its a sterol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milky87
    It has a sterane skeletone, therefore, its a steroid .

    HD50 - while a steroid - has a hydroxyl group at C3, so technically, its a sterol
    Kinda i guess....thanks for info!
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    How about Dynabolan ™ ??

    did anybody tried before?
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    I still have a bottle of M1T by gaspari nutrition. I used it about a year ago with great results and was wondering if their is anything else out their like that? Can you still get halodrol? Is the methyl 1 alpha any good by legal gear? Any other products out their? Thanks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bihster
    How about Dynabolan ™ ??

    did anybody tried before?
    One word...........................

    Just marketed

    Nuff said
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    Quote Originally Posted by suprman09
    I still have a bottle of M1T by gaspari nutrition. I used it about a year ago with great results and was wondering if their is anything else out their like that? Can you still get halodrol? Is the methyl 1 alpha any good by legal gear? Any other products out their? Thanks...
    HD is the shit you might wanna get, not that crappy Dynabolan stuff....

    Do a search, there are plenty of threads about it!
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    Here's an option: IGF

    IGF-1 LR3 media grade is back on the shelves!!
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    Halodrol, superdrol, phera plex? Which one is the best, and can these supplements be stacked with any others?
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    Quote Originally Posted by suprman09
    Halodrol, superdrol, phera plex? Which one is the best, and can these supplements be stacked with any others?
    Why always looking for stack?
    Just try the goddam product by itself and then you'll......SD is too harsh for what it gives...
    PP is good stuff but make sure to have aproper pct

    HD is way better considering the very few sides (if any) and pounds up after pct.

    Good pumps too and a bit more vascular is what you can get along w/ a correct diet!
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    halodrol is good stuff.
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    Testo would some novadex be a suffiecent PCT for the HD or PP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by suprman09
    Testo would some novadex be a suffiecent PCT for the HD or PP?
    Nolva 40/40/20/20 would be enough for HD only cycle, yes!
    ya lucky bastard, i was just about to get some zzzzz!

    Good nite evryone!
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