Off cycle, Depressed, Feeling like complete $hit

[ironmike250]

So, there it is. I feel like such $hit! I can't hardly eat. I train like a pu$$y. I've lost about 18lbs so far. Having ALOT of chick problems. Have no sex drive. (and I did clomid for like a month)

Can anybody tell me what the hell is going on? I feel like this situation I'm in is getting desperate. I went from 280 lbs. to like 262 in no time! It just started happening too. I've been off cycle for about 2 1/2-3 months.

[novicenovicen]

Sorry my friend. Just keep pushing through. Eat great and exercise well. just don't over train. probably just water gains hit creatine and NO products to help your recovery

[ottomaddox]

What did your cycle consist of? Amounts and duration, type....

[stupidhippo]

what was ur cycle like? this was ur cycle number what? whats ur stats like? I think u should extend ur PCT... maybe add some HCG too in the mix.. some ppl take really long time to recover... is ur diet in check.. are u eating enough.. I have to say that I had similar problems than u .. I was also 280 lbs and lost alto after correct PCT and all..

[Mighty Joe]

It comes back bro...hang in there. Most folks these days are advocates of PCT taking as long as it takes to get your libido back. Some take longer than others.

[big&tall]

hang in there you will be fine just dont get down on your self good luck

[C_Bino]

You CANNOT let yourself get depressed man, if you tell yourself oh Im depressed you will just start to believe there is nothing you can do and just give up. This in turn is going to make you dependent on gear. You gotta keep your head up off cycle and just keep going as if you are on and none of this will happen.

[BajanBastard]

Post the cycle, drugs and duration. Also the PCT.

[Dying Wail]

Good luk!!!

[trin2getswole]

hang in there

[tvd220]

yea bro, gotta post your stats so we can help you better. Just keep your head up, and I feel you, the girl shit makes it even worse...

[Ironmanjay]

Yeah bro my last cycle I threw in some hcg two wks after my last shot, I cycled that for like 2 wks at 500ius eod. I ran clomid for 6 wks and nolva for 8 wks and and l-dex for 12wks. I felt better faster when I did this pct, so run another pct.

[justtrnd40]

run another pct and add proviron to it. It will help alot.

[Kale]

Get some Cialis, that will help while you recover.

[ironmike250]

Ok, Thank You All Ffor The Advice.

My Last Cycle Consisted Of 5 Weeks Of D-bol At 40 Mg. Per Day.
12 Weeks Of Sustanon 250 And 12 Weeks Of Deca

I Am 6'3-6'4 Depending On The Day. Body Fat Somewhere Around 15% Or So.

Weight At The End Of The Cycle Was 280. As Of Last Night At The Gym, I Am Only 261.

Thanks For The Advice Bros!

Mike

[stupidhippo]

has ur strength gone down a lot too? dropped a lot in lifts? How bout your nuts.. are they still small or have they grown back (if u know)? Deca can be very suppressive for some time.. I suggest that u do another PCT and hit it off with HCG (especially if ur nuts are still small). Then for the mood clen did wonders for me... Dont know the explanation for that but it really elevated my mood and it helped to perform in the gym which also helps to the mood.

oh yeah and continue doing nolva or whatever u use until u feel recovered atleast..

[vein-x]

I'm actually in the EXACT same boat as we speak. Do you have some pretty intense mood swings, like you'll be looking forward to next cycle, all's going well, you're happy... and then you get stonewalled with stuff and you're overcome and just don't want to live through it anymore? That's exactly where I am anyway..

Quick on-topic question.. It's been about 1.5-2 months since I've stopped my cycle. I ran roughly 1 month of Clomid and Nolva and I'm still have problems (VERY similar to the one's Iron described) Would it be beneficial to order HCG and Clomid along with the T3/Clen stack I'm about to order? At this point so 'far' from my cycle's end would it help me come back? I don't see a reason why it wouldn't but it's always best to ask. Thanks, and good luck to you Iron. If you need anything PLEASE PM me and we can have a 'high estrogen-induced bitch chat.' Good luck bro..

[Jay_notellin]

has ur strength gone down a lot too? dropped a lot in lifts? How bout your nuts.. are they still small or have they grown back (if u know)? Deca can be very suppressive for some time.. I suggest that u do another PCT and hit it off with HCG (especially if ur nuts are still small). Then for the mood clen did wonders for me... Dont know the explanation for that but it really elevated my mood and it helped to perform in the gym which also helps to the mood.

oh yeah and continue doing nolva or whatever u use until u feel recovered atleast..

I do not know if you work......but if you do.....insured....etc. Go see your doctor. Get blood work done. Tell him the story. That is your quickest route to solving your problem. Case closed best answer you can get. They can give you $hit you can't get.....and also tell you exactly how to use it.

[Jay_notellin]

I also think it is a metally tramatic experience when you lose a tone of water weight.........Was for me. besides going to your doctor.......take ephedra to pep you up. Also an anticatabolic. Also a slight mood elevater.

[eljugo16]

bump

[stupidhippo]

what exactly u think a doctor could give him! they prolly will give him nothing.. and anyway if his lucky he would get a doctor that would prescrbe him sumin it would prolly be HCG and nolva...This problem is resolved by time usually and I suspect most GP's will prescribe nothing smart... IMO this is one of the rare cases where going to see the doc is of no use.

[stupidhippo]

I'm actually in the EXACT same boat as we speak. Do you have some pretty intense mood swings, like you'll be looking forward to next cycle, all's going well, you're happy... and then you get stonewalled with stuff and you're overcome and just don't want to live through it anymore? That's exactly where I am anyway..

Quick on-topic question.. It's been about 1.5-2 months since I've stopped my cycle. I ran roughly 1 month of Clomid and Nolva and I'm still have problems (VERY similar to the one's Iron described) Would it be beneficial to order HCG and Clomid along with the T3/Clen stack I'm about to order? At this point so 'far' from my cycle's end would it help me come back? I don't see a reason why it wouldn't but it's always best to ask. Thanks, and good luck to you Iron. If you need anything PLEASE PM me and we can have a 'high estrogen-induced bitch chat.' Good luck bro..

order atleast nolva with that... maybe HCG too..

[BajanBastard]

Ok, Thank You All Ffor The Advice.

My Last Cycle Consisted Of 5 Weeks Of D-bol At 40 Mg. Per Day.
12 Weeks Of Sustanon 250 And 12 Weeks Of Deca

I Am 6'3-6'4 Depending On The Day. Body Fat Somewhere Around 15% Or So.

Weight At The End Of The Cycle Was 280. As Of Last Night At The Gym, I Am Only 261.

Thanks For The Advice Bros!

Mike

What were the dosages? Running deca and test @ the same length of time may have hindered your PCT.
Again post the cycle exactly how you did it, AAS, AIs, S.E.R.Ms

[Jay_notellin]

what exactly u think a doctor could give him! they prolly will give him nothing.. and anyway if his lucky he would get a doctor that would prescrbe him sumin it would prolly be HCG and nolva...This problem is resolved by time usually and I suspect most GP's will prescribe nothing smart... IMO this is one of the rare cases where going to see the doc is of no use.

So you think you are going to get better advice here than you would from your doctor? Are you kidding me?

[Jay_notellin]

I'm actually in the EXACT same boat as we speak. Do you have some pretty intense mood swings, like you'll be looking forward to next cycle, all's going well, you're happy... and then you get stonewalled with stuff and you're overcome and just don't want to live through it anymore? That's exactly where I am anyway..

Quick on-topic question.. It's been about 1.5-2 months since I've stopped my cycle. I ran roughly 1 month of Clomid and Nolva and I'm still have problems (VERY similar to the one's Iron described) Would it be beneficial to order HCG and Clomid along with the T3/Clen stack I'm about to order? At this point so 'far' from my cycle's end would it help me come back? I don't see a reason why it wouldn't but it's always best to ask. Thanks, and good luck to you Iron. If you need anything PLEASE PM me and we can have a 'high estrogen-induced bitch chat.' Good luck bro..

Maybe you should get your Nolva, Clen and clomid from some place different. Maybe your PCT was bunk......just a thought.

[Seattle Junk]

Get some Cialis, that will help while you recover.

Cialis just helps you get wood temporarily. It's not PCT.

[stupidhippo]

So you think you are going to get better advice here than you would from your doctor? Are you kidding me?

in this case yeah (ofcourse there is a lot of bad advise here as well)... some ppl here know alot more of these things than the average doctor. Recovering from gear is not a topic ur average GP spends alot of time learning and reading upon the newest studies... Im few years away from being a MD so I think Im pretty well experienced to say this. I usually always suggest going to see a doc but this is not a case where IMO a doc can or will help. Ofcourse getting bloodwork done might revela sumin but this is probably just a regular recovery problem. Where Im from if I would go with a problem like this to see a doc they would just say ride it out..

[Kale]

Cialis just helps you get wood temporarily. It's not PCT.

I didnt suggest it was PCT !

[ironmike250]

has ur strength gone down a lot too? dropped a lot in lifts? How bout your nuts.. are they still small or have they grown back (if u know)? Deca can be very suppressive for some time.. I suggest that u do another PCT and hit it off with HCG (especially if ur nuts are still small). Then for the mood clen did wonders for me... Dont know the explanation for that but it really elevated my mood and it helped to perform in the gym which also helps to the mood.

oh yeah and continue doing nolva or whatever u use until u feel recovered atleast..

I have gotten weak as hell. I was benching 3 plates like 6 times...Now, 3 plates would break me in half. I think the nads are still a little bit smaller than before.

I will try to do some more pct. As far as the HCG...is it legal? Or do I need to get it from a similar type source?

Thanks for all the advice! EVERYONE! I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONES INPUT!

[Pinum]

Deca is a hard recovery process. I've had a much harder time bouncing back after use plus you typically have to cycle for longer periods. I'm working through it myself and my libido still sucks, energy down, and feel like shit.

[Fjock]

So you think you are going to get better advice here than you would from your doctor? Are you kidding me?

I strongly agree with hippo, absolutely you can find better advice here. These boards are full of experienced AAS users who have had alot of different experience and loads of knowledge to share. Jay I dunno about ur doc but i dont think mine has been on any cycles as of late Dont doubt the quality of the knowledge you can gain from these boards.

[stupidhippo]

I have gotten weak as hell. I was benching 3 plates like 6 times...Now, 3 plates would break me in half. I think the nads are still a little bit smaller than before.

I will try to do some more pct. As far as the HCG ...is it legal? Or do I need to get it from a similar type source?

Thanks for all the advice! EVERYONE! I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONES INPUT!

u need to get HCG from a source.. unless ur doctor will prescribe u some but I dount that. Just continue PCT as long as recovered and if u feeling like shit try clen .. helped me.. did wonders..

[Grappler13]

So you think you are going to get better advice here than you would from your doctor? Are you kidding me?

I have spoken with many GPs and asked them about steroids /pct/etc and they have all given me the ole "not worth the risk" answer. When asked upon which they base their opinions, .........no basis. I think the corpus of knowledge on this board is better than you'll get from your average GP.

[STB]

Aside from the good advice about extending PCT and adding HCG , I would also throw in some Trib and ZMA. They are always a part of my PCT. I have never tried it, but Tongkat Ali may be something else to look into.

Deca is tough. Great gains, but one of the hardest recoveries out there.

Best of luck Iron. Hang in there.


Bluesman

[ironmike250]

Aside from the good advice about extending PCT and adding HCG , I would also throw in some Trib and ZMA. They are always a part of my PCT. I have never tried it, but Tongkat Ali may be something else to look into.

Deca is tough. Great gains, but one of the hardest recoveries out there.

Best of luck Iron. Hang in there.


Bluesman

Thanks alot bro! I've heard about that Tongkat...might need to give it a try.

[LB 35]

Thanks alot bro! I've heard about that Tongkat...might need to give it a try.

Tongkat will deffinately help you in the sex drive dept. I am taking redkat right now in my pct and my sex drive is crazy.

[juicepig]

all u need is a happy meal!

[IBdmfkr]

I could give blind suggestions but until you answer BIGK's above questions I cannot help you either.

Waiting for reply.

[vitor]

You should considder going on "Proviron "(50mgs ed)now. IMO, its a wonder drug in PCT, it will keep libido up, energy, strenght and basically mask the feeling of being shut down.

Ime using Proviron now with mega-doses of Tribulus and Redkat, an my natty test are almost 1400ng, quite a bit higher than they where before I startet last cycle.

[spittin' 'n cussin']

Deca is tough. Great gains, but one of the hardest recoveries out there.
Bluesman

if ur 16 yrs old.