Is winny that bad?

[DieselPlayer]

Have been reading a lot of threads on winny...and the consensus is that the stuff does a real number on your joints. Are there folks out there that have done winny with a good deal of success (vascularity, strength gains, hardness, etc.) and not experienced any joint problems?

And for those that have, did substances such as glucosamine help?? There just too many naysayers out there!!!!

[stocky121]

i never had any joint's problems but everyone is diffrent

[marcus300]

Had many joint troubles with winny but Ive found taking it for only a certain number of weeks gives me no pain at all, if i stay on it to long my joints do suffer alot, but as for the drug is gives me quality muscle gains,hardness and vascularity.

[Liftnainez]

Unfortunately, I experienced joint problems on winny.. although i will be giving it a shot again the future while stacking it with glucosamine + chondroitin to see what happens..

[Pinnacle]

I've ran winny up to 200 mgs ED and never had joint issues at all.

I think winny is a very good drug at high doses,but at 50mgs Ed it isn't worth a god damm thing.I wouldn't even let my dog run 50 mgs Ed as it's a total waste...you need to be a man and run doses of drugs that are effective,not what you read about this and that on boards like this.If that were the case NO ONE would be large if you listened to all the BS posted on this( and other) boards.


~Pinnacle~

[FranKieC]

I've ran winny up to 200 mgs ED and never had joint issues at all.

I think winny is a very good drug at high doses,but at 50mgs Ed it isn't worth a god damm thing.I wouldn't even let my dog run 50 mgs Ed as it's a total waste...you need to be a man and run doses of drugs that are effective,not what you read about this and that on boards like this.If that were the case NO ONE would be large if you listened to all the BS posted on this( and other) boards.


~Pinnacle~

You think he should run 200mgs even if it's his first go with it? Do not take this as me doubting you but wouldn't you recomend him starting at around 100mgs ED to see what/if any sides he gets at all?

Just curious..

[Pinnacle]

You think he should run 200mgs even if it's his first go with it? Do not take this as me doubting you but wouldn't you recomend him starting at around 100mgs ED to see what/if any sides he gets at all?

Just curious..

I never mentioned what doses anyone should run it at.I merely said what doses I run winny at.

I think 50 mgs is useless,and wouldn't run less than 75 mgs Ed on any cycle of winny.If you go to pubmed you'll see research showing 20-25 % of oral winny is destroyed the first pass through the liver.So you need to take that into account as well when dosing oral winny.So basically 75 mgs equates to 50 mgs bio-available winstrol..see what I'm saying?

~Pinnacle~

[FranKieC]

I never mentioned what doses anyone should run it at.I merely said what doses I run winny at.

I think 50 mgs is useless,and wouldn't run less than 75 mgs Ed on any cycle of winny.If you go to pubmed you'll see research showing 20-25 % of oral winny is destroyed the first pass through the liver.So you need to take that into account as well when dosing oral winny.So basically 75 mgs equates to 50 mgs bio-available winstrol..see what I'm saying?

~Pinnacle~

I def see what your saying..How about intramuscular suspension? Do you have to dose according to this as well or is what you inject is what you get (unless it's underdosed ofcourse)

[Pinnacle]

I def see what your saying..How about intramuscular suspension? Do you have to dose according to this as well or is what you inject is what you get (unless it's underdosed ofcourse)

Sorry man..I have no expereince really with injectable winny.I use oral winstrol mostly.Never liked the soreness from injectable winstrol


~Pinnacle~

[FranKieC]

Sorry man..I have no expereince really with injectable winny.I use oral winstrol mostly.Never liked the soreness from injectable winstrol


~Pinnacle~

Np

Thanks for the information regarding Oral though

[Smak]

Winny is good shit. I'll definitely be running it again. It really dries you out and makes your muscles look hard and dense. I got pretty damn vascular on it as well. EQ makes me the most vascular though. I'm hoping to see what var does for me.

[*Narkissos*]

I've ran winny up to 200 mgs ED and never had joint issues at all.

I think winny is a very good drug at high doses,but at 50mgs Ed it isn't worth a god damm thing.I wouldn't even let my dog run 50 mgs Ed as it's a total waste...you need to be a man and run doses of drugs that are effective,not what you read about this and that on boards like this.If that were the case NO ONE would be large if you listened to all the BS posted on this( and other) boards.


~Pinnacle~

I agree on these points. I've run winny up to 150 mg ED.. no joint problems. I did get a tendon injury when i stayed on for longer than 6 weeks tho.. but that could've been from a number of factors.

The lowest i would run winny again is 100 mg.

I've run it lower.. but for it's anti-estrogenic properties rather than for anabolism.

I find 50 mg ED personally keeps me fairly minimises estrogen-related sides. I prefer DHT-derivaties to AIs anyday.

Nark

[*Narkissos*]

Sorry man..I have no expereince really with injectable winny.I use oral winstrol mostly.Never liked the soreness from injectable winstrol


~Pinnacle~

Ditto.. never tried the injectable version.. Never saw the sense in it... i'm not a pincushion lol.

[Liftnainez]

I've ran winny up to 200 mgs ED and never had joint issues at all.

I think winny is a very good drug at high doses,but at 50mgs Ed it isn't worth a god damm thing.I wouldn't even let my dog run 50 mgs Ed as it's a total waste...you need to be a man and run doses of drugs that are effective,not what you read about this and that on boards like this.If that were the case NO ONE would be large if you listened to all the BS posted on this( and other) boards.


~Pinnacle~

Once again pinnacle lays it down again! like i said before your attitude is great brotha.. telling it how it is.. alot of people are just parrots repeating what they read in previous posts.. I many not run winny up to 200 mgs but I def see your point bro.. good job

[5ocal]

def...............

[DieselPlayer]

The feedback from this post has been GREAT! I plan to run 75mgs ED of oral winny for 6 weeks in conjunction with my existing Andropen 275 cycle...it'll be my first time using winny, so I'd rather play it safe. But it's good to know that not everyone develops joint problems...naturally, I'll supplement with a lil' glucosamine to be on the safe side...

Also, have you guys every upped the dosage for winny during a cycle (i.e., from 75mgs to 100mgs) if, say, you weren't seeing the desired results? Was wondering if this sort of change would greatly affect blood levels.

[Xprime]

MY GOD NARKISSOS U RE A FREAK!

If u re not first at this competition, judges must be jealous of you.


About winny, hmmm what to say, listen the pros