Test E./Winstrol/Nolva? please help.

[donveto]

04/25/06
09:19 AM
New Hampshire, USA



Hi guys I just wanted to get your input on this cycle...I have a higher Bf(18-19%) 204 lbs. I have Anthonys book and have learned alot from it. After talking with a couple vets they have suggested the following to me.

Take 4-6 weeks and try to shed about 8-10lbs of fat, then the following cylce for the summer. I was told alot of people in my case do it to gain some lean mass wile keeping the fat gains away and possibly lower br a % or 2. here is the cycle

Week / Test.E / Winstrol / Nolvadex

1) 250mg/week 20mg/day 20mg/day

2) 500mg/week 20mg/day 20mg/day

3) 500mg/week 20mg/day 20mg/day

4) 500mg/week 20mg/day 20mg/day

5) 500mg/week 20mg/day 20mg/day

6) 500mg/week 20mg/day 20mg/day

7) 500mg/week 20mg/day 20mg/day

8) 250mg/week ------------- 20mg/day

-Post Cycle Therapy

9) Clomid 100mg/day and Nolvadex 20mg/day

10) Clomid 50mg/day and Nolvadex 20mg/day

I was told the nolva run along side the whole 8 weeks will help with water retention and for the fact that I DONT HAVE GYNO...I JUST CARRY FAT IN MY LOWER CHEST...I was told this will help a little...

ALSO this stack was suggested but I cannot figure out why someone would mix d-bol and winny??? Can someone help on this?

Week / Test.E / D-Bol / Winstrol

1) 250mg/week 20mg/day 20mg/day

2) 500mg/week 20mg/day 20mg/day

3) 500mg/week 20mg/day 20mg/day

4) 500mg/week 20mg/day 20mg/day

5) 500mg/week ------------- 20mg/day

6) 500mg/week ------------- 20mg/day

7) 500mg/week ------------- 20mg/day

8) 250mg/week ------------- 20mg/day

-Post Cycle Therapy

9) 100mg Clomid/day and 20mg/day Nolvadex

10) 50mg Clomid/day and 20mg/day Nolvadex

My main goal would be to drop 10lbs of fat then start a summer cylce. I play baseball so I will be getting cardio in alot so I didnt want to go a mega cycle but a modest one that will give me maybe 10lbs of lean muscle while helping a bit in the fat dept..I will be experementing with mass cycles in the winter...Thanks again
oh yeah I forgot...I used to be a fat **** of almost 280....I trained my way down to 165...then bulked up for a great while to 200ish..now I sit at 204 18-19% bf...I have my diet in good shape and train very hard..

[peump]

you should not be running 250mg in the first week. if anything you would run 1000mg in the first week, but that is not needed

winsrol should be about 50 mg ed

don't taper the test dose in the lest week.

i haven't read hookers book but i don't think that it says what you've posted as far as cycling

[FranKieC]

you should not be running 250mg in the first week. if anything you would run 1000mg in the first week, but that is not needed

Ahhhh Frontloading

[peump]

how old are you donveto ?

[donveto]

24 years old

[donveto]

I have anthony roberts anabolic steriod research guide...I like the looks of the first cylce ...still confused about the d-bol and winstrol mix?? But this will be my first cylce ...I will be focusing more on a big mass gains during the winter

[Liftnainez]

you should not be running 250mg in the first week. if anything you would run 1000mg in the first week, but that is not needed

winsrol should be about 50 mg ed

don't taper the test dose in the lest week.

i haven't read hookers book but i don't think that it says what you've posted as far as cycling

I agree..

[Liftnainez]

I have anthony roberts anabolic steriod research guide...I like the looks of the first cylce ...still confused about the d-bol and winstrol mix?? But this will be my first cylce ...I will be focusing more on a big mass gains during the winter

I actually read and know some people who love that combo.. never tried it myself but i guess it does work..

[peump]

the test is going to take every bit of four weeks before you notice it working
so in comes the d-bol as your four week jumpstart.

the winny will harden you up towards the end of your cycle

if i were you and my diet and disipline were up to par then i would use 500mg of test e for 12 weeks. thats it.

[donveto]

after further research I am going to do 12 weeks of test E(frontloaded w/1000) 4 week kickstart with 20mg ed d-bol...
Im a little confused on the best pct for a 12 week cycle....I have researched it and I have clomid and nolva...

what would be the best term and dosage for pct...

after pct I plan to bridge with trib and biotest carbolin19...unless there is better?

Thanks guys...I have been planning this for a while and I want to make sure I have everything down before the first injection..

Thanks again

[peump]

pheedno's pct

[peump]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...heedno%27s+pct

[donveto]

PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
sounds good- im at work and will really dig into that post at home tonight..
wher this is a 30 day pct is it ok to run tribulus along side it at all?

Thanks for your help

[peump]

. is it ok to run tribulus along side it at all?

i do