hi view my next cycle pls!!!!!!

[arnold_of_malta]

as you know i have been cycling quite for a time know but i still like others to view my coming up cycle thank you for you time!!!!!!!

week 1-6 winistrol 50mgs daily oral
week 1-12 test e 750mgs weekly
week 3-15 aramidex 0,25mgs daily

i want to gain muscle but lean muscel not watery look!!!

how long will the winny tabs take to kick in???????

thank you

[arnold_of_malta]

my states are 5 feet 7 tall
190 lbs lean

[arnold_of_malta]

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[arnold_of_malta]

comments???????

[Nelstar]

looks irie, few days and youll be a walking boner

[arnold_of_malta]

looks irie, few days and youll be a walking boner

what do you mean????????? i dont want to cut more then i am i just wnt to keep my condition and grow

[HORSE~]

Why not run the winny at the end of the cycle to harden up all your gains from the test.

[arnold_of_malta]

Why not run the winny at the end of the cycle to harden up all your gains from the test.

yes you are write mate!!!!!!! i have made a chance in my cycle instead of testoverone 750mgs weekly i was thinking of taking 250 mgs sustinol eod for 12 weeks and at the end i take the winny!!!!!!!

just a small question test e and sustinol has got the same side effects??? say for acne if injectiong eod blood levels will be very very stable so its not a problem and takin 0.25mgs aramidex daily will reduce alot of the sides!!!!!! how long will the sustinol take to kick in????????? i have available pakistan oraganon deca 250mg per 1 ml!!!!!! is it a good sustinol???????

[HORSE~]

Are you talking about sustanon or deca towards the end of your last post you put pakistan oraganon deca.Anyway I belive you ment sustanon,and for me it takes about 5 to 6 week's before I start to notice any gains.

[arnold_of_malta]

yes yes sustinol i ment sry mate it take 5-6 weeks asweel but they say it kicks infaster then test e and it gives you beter results then test e!!!!!!!! my aim is to grow up in size say from 190 pounds i will become 210-215 pounds sy gain 20-25 pounds in 12 weeks 250mgs eod is a good dose i will take 0.25 mg aramisex daily do you think is it eneff 0.25mgs daily???????? i take it mostly so i dont get water retenion and no bitch tits and mostly i dont get acne when i use aramidex!!!!!

[HORSE~]

I personaly like sust and have gained 20lb's on it,but most pepole prefer a single ester test.Depending on your cycle history I would think that 750mg of sust a week you should come real close to your goal.

[testosterona]

aren't you the young guy that shouldn't be cycling because he doesn't know jack about anything? correct me if i'm wrong, but..........?
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=193516

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=178597

i thought you were 154lbs last cycle........so you gained and kept about 40lbs huh

[HORSE~]

aren't you the young guy that shouldn't be cycling because he doesn't know jack about anything? correct me if i'm wrong, but..........?

Damit just check public profile 19 sorry bro Im out.

[arnold_of_malta]

aren't you the young guy that shouldn't be cycling because he doesn't know jack about anything? correct me if i'm wrong, but..........?
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=193516

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=178597

i thought you were 154lbs last cycle........so you gained and kept about 40lbs huh

no i was 150lbs when i was nuterall like 1 year and a half ago no i am 190lbs and much leaner and in condition then i was!!!!!!!! yes i am 19 going to be 20 soon!!!!!!

[marcus300]

no i was 150lbs when i was nuterall like 1 year and a half ago no i am 190lbs and much leaner and in condition then i was!!!!!!!! yes i am 19 going to be 20 soon!!!!!!

your abit to young for doing AAS.

[arnold_of_malta]

your abit to young for doing AAS.

yes i know mate but i have been cycling for like 1 yrs and 6 mths know i did 4 cycle off 10 weeks each my next cycle will be my 5th cycle!!!!! my bload work and every thing is fine i did check ups!!!! the only side effect i got is that since i started i did not get taller 1cms but i am not that short 5 feet 7 is the average hieght here in malta but if i did not take steridos at a young age i would have grown 3 more inches!!!!!! so i advace young men like me to not start steriods if they want to get taller!!!!!!!

[marcus300]

750mg per wk at 19yrs, you should have enough hormones at your age to make good decent gains without taking AAS, how long you been training?

[arnold_of_malta]

3 yrs mate

[arnold_of_malta]

i use to gain naturall as well but small amount off gains and with out steriods you never get that roundness i have and that 24 hr pump !!!!!!!

[marcus300]

Its just scary to think what damage your doing to yourself at your age and were you are going to be by the way of mg per week in couple of years

[arnold_of_malta]

yes thats a problem mate the mgs weeklys in the coming yrs because even 750mgs test weekly by body is used to them

[longhorn814]

yes this is the guy who thinks he can NOT grow without steroids!!

[arnold_of_malta]

yes this is the guy who thinks he can NOT grow without steroids!!

yes yes its hard to grow with out them mate !!!!!!

[marcus300]

AAS are just an addition, its food what makes you grow

[arnold_of_malta]

yes i know its the food makes you grow but when i stay 10 weeks off cycle and eat the same i never grow i keep my gains yes because i have a very high test naturally when i was young i had bad acne i was really hair at a young age when started training naturall the first yr i really grow then after that year there was a big bodybuilder at the gym and sold me dianabol and deca and test he told me no side effects you will just grow and grow and that time i didnot know anything about steriods! i bought then and took ta 10 weeks tha ti bought! after that i did not stop because they became like a habbit like a smoke that smokes he cannot stay without them! i always try to stop but i am not able to do that very sad i worry alot my family and gf!!!!

[1buffsob]

You need help bro. Serious help. I suggest you stop juicing and get some therapy. A lot of the guys here started young, but no one was doing his 5th cycle at 19. The fact that you truly believe you can't grow without juice is what bothers me most.

1buffsob

[Kale]

This guy has had threads similar to this one in the past. He is a lost cause I am afraid.

[longhorn814]

Ive tried to help him in the past and he doesnt listen and Ive given up. As sad as it is to say, some people just have to learn the hard way. He has a serious problem and needs some help.

[arnold_of_malta]

yes i know you are all right friends and i thank you but i cannot stop i wish to train without them much more healty but i got addicted sort of to them like most of as here are addicted to steriods but they dont admitt it

[arnold_of_malta]

one cycle to the other nons top like all of us here in this forum!!!!!!

[1buffsob]

Addiction is just an excuse for the weak minded. Don't just say "I'm addicted, therefor I can't stop". Make an effort, see a therapist, talk to your friends and family for support. You're gonna end up in a bad place come a couple of years.

1buffsob

[1buffsob]

one cycle to the other nons top like all of us here in this forum!!!!!!

I'm guessing you're talking about going from one cycle to the other without breaking (No one can read what the hell you're talking about.). You're wrong, dead wrong. The real members of this board always allow time for recovery unless they're competitors or total veterans (Pinnacle comes to mind). They're not 19 years old who play Russian Roulette with their lives.

1buffsob

[arnold_of_malta]

i meant all of us here cycle on and off year round!!!!!!!!!!!

[arnold_of_malta]

Addiction is just an excuse for the weak mer age ounginded. Don't just say "I'm addicted, therefor I can't stop". Make an effort, see a therapist, talk to your friends and family for support. You're gonna end up in a bad place come a couple of years.

1buffsob

what bad place will i end couple of years?????? lee priest cycled at a younger age then me and he is still alive and kicking and there are much more

[Anabolios]

what bad place will i end couple of years?????? lee priest cycled at a younger age then me and he is still alive and kicking and there are much more

ever hear the saying "if someone cool jumped off a bridge would you follow?" mmmm you have an addiction a bad addiction you are also addicted to putting ???????????????????? or !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? at the end of every sentence

get some help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you have a serious mentral addiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and the thought that you cant grow without aas is crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stop cycling for your own goood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you have probably done a lot of damage to your body!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and every post i see you are asking what will give you acne...you obviously hate it bad so stop cycling and taking the risk of it coming back...use your head

[longhorn814]

this guy has almost 700 posts and sounds completely clueless the whole cycling concept!! He always posts saying this and that gives him acne, what can he take? Did you ever think all the acne is b/c youre still developing as a man and your hormones are on a freaking roller coaster ride b/c of all the steroids youre taking? Dude, you need to lay off. Saying you cant gain weight without steroids is one of the most ignorant statements I have heard.

[Anabolios]

this guy has almost 700 posts and sounds completely clueless the whole cycling concept!! He always posts saying this and that gives him acne, what can he take? Did you ever think all the acne is b/c youre still developing as a man and your hormones are on a freaking roller coaster ride b/c of all the steroids youre taking? Dude, you need to lay off. Saying you cant gain weight without steroids is one of the most ignorant statements I have heard.

and this will be a huge mental block for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dont you agree?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

anyways...i really hope you can overcome this addiction because nobody deserves to be hooked on anything..except pussy maybe?

[marcus300]

You should listen to us all.

[SVTMuscle*]

You need help bro. Serious help. I suggest you stop juicing and get some therapy. A lot of the guys here started young, but no one was doing his 5th cycle at 19. The fact that you truly believe you can't grow without juice is what bothers me most.

1buffsob

Hey I cant gain weight without steroids either and im his age!

O wait, i gained 18 lean pounds during my past natty bulk...

[SVTMuscle*]

Dude you need to relax and rely on yourself to do work rather than having something else do it for you.
And of course for now on you pretty much wont grow without the use of AAS, because you completly screwed your hormones and test levels. congratulations on that.
People need to learn there is a difference between creatine and steroids.