1st Cycle - Please Comment

**Dippin** · 04-26-2006, 10:01 AM

Hi All,

Thanks so much for having such a boat load of information on this site. After doing a bunch of research I have determined that I am going to add some Oral-Turinabol to my cycle as a front load.

Stats:
29 yo
5'10
210
1st cycle

Here is what I am looking to run.

1 - 6 Oral-Turinabol 60mg ED
1 – 12 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks.

**C_Bino** · 04-26-2006, 10:12 AM

Looks pretty good, most people will tell you test only for a first cycle but I seriously dont see a problem with running an oral to kickstart your first cycle before your test kicks in anyways.

**Sanecrazy** · 04-26-2006, 10:15 AM

Looks good bro, be sure to post progress for us.

**1buffsob** · 04-26-2006, 10:15 AM

Looks fine. Well thought out. I personally wouldn't run the nolva and l-dex together with that little of test. I'd just run the l-dex and have the nolva on hand for PCT, and in the case that gyno starts up. Either way, very nice. Well researched.

1buffsob

**Dippin** · 04-26-2006, 12:10 PM

Thanks fellas - the comments are MUCH appreciated.

2 more quick questions....

1. What liver protectes would you suggest to take with a cycle like this?

2. Is it ok to run ECA while on this cycle.

Thanks.

**Nelstar** · 04-26-2006, 12:12 PM

you could try that tyler's liver detoxifier if its still around google it so hard you might dig it up

**bignatt** · 04-26-2006, 12:18 PM

I would run the nolva at 10mg/day for your lipid profile

**taiotosh7** · 04-26-2006, 12:40 PM

there is a product called liver detoxifier & regenerator by NOW NUTRITION, it rocks.....pick this up cheap at bodybuilding.com....or just go with good ol milk thistle

**MAXIMA5** · 04-26-2006, 12:42 PM

Vitamin Shoppe had a supplement called LIver Support with Milt thistle, Dandeliion, and more. Good stuff.

**Dippin** · 04-26-2006, 01:10 PM

Thanks...

Any comments on running ECA while "ON"?

**MFT81** · 04-26-2006, 06:51 PM

Well if you run an eca that means you wanna cut bf right?

It thats the case then use the cycle to make some big gains and let yourself eat, worry bout the bf afterwards.

Higher test levels can help you develop muscle and reduce bf to a degree

Thats my .02

**Dippin** · 04-27-2006, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by MFT81

Well if you run an eca that means you wanna cut bf right?

It thats the case then use the cycle to make some big gains and let yourself eat, worry bout the bf afterwards.

Higher test levels can help you develop muscle and reduce bf to a degree

Thats my .02

Im using this cycle as a cutter, hoping to gain lean mass and lower my BF. My diet is dead on in check for cutting so Im hoping that the diet will help me a great deal.

I don't want the ED or EOD shots of prop so I've researched a bunch here and it seems like many have used Test E as a cutter so that's my plan. Using t-bol as a kickstart.

Anyone ever run ECA through the duration of a cycle like mine?

**Liftnainez** · 04-27-2006, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Dippin

Hi All,

Thanks so much for having such a boat load of information on this site. After doing a bunch of research I have determined that I am going to add some Oral-Turinabol to my cycle as a front load.

Stats:
29 yo
5'10
210
1st cycle

Here is what I am looking to run.

1 - 6 Oral-Turinabol 60mg ED
1 – 12 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 12 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after last Enan injection

Please let me know what you think.

Thanks.

Cycle looks great.. infact this is the IDENTICAL cycle i ran about 7 months ago.. I had to cut it short at around 8 weeks (sucked big time) but I did have great gains thankfully.. I gains around 21-24 lbs and strength increases were pretty crazy.. unfortunately I had to stop short and my pct suffered as well and i lost some gains.. ( i will try and never let that happen again) get ready for some sick results.. but rem your diet will be KEY here.. i know it was for me.. good luck and keep us updated...

**cfiler** · 04-27-2006, 09:56 AM

Personally I would drop the tbol. The first cycle is a great learning experience on how your body will react to gear. If you are running tbol and test, and you develop gyno, you would not know which compound was giving you the side effect. If you ran just test, and found gyno, then you would know it was the test.

**Beretta726** · 05-10-2006, 10:28 AM

I'm using 400mg a week of TestCyp for 10 weeks. I'm also using dbol at 25mg ED for the first 4 weeks. I'll be using Nolva at 10mg ED the entire cycle. Should I add L-dex in?

**SMAN12b** · 05-10-2006, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Beretta726

I'm using 400mg a week of TestCyp for 10 weeks. I'm also using dbol at 25mg ED for the first 4 weeks. I'll be using Nolva at 10mg ED the entire cycle. Should I add L-dex in?

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**Beretta726** · 05-10-2006, 10:41 AM

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**SMAN12b** · 05-10-2006, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Beretta726

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**SMAN12b** · 05-10-2006, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Beretta726

chill bro I just needed a simple yes or no answer. I didn't read the rules and I'll post in another thread, my mistake.

I didn't read the rules

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**vitor** · 05-10-2006, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by cfiler

Personally I would drop the tbol. The first cycle is a great learning experience on how your body will react to gear. If you are running tbol and test, and you develop gyno, you would not know which compound was giving you the side effect. If you ran just test, and found gyno, then you would know it was the test.

T-BOL doesnt convert to estrogen, no gyno issues there...