Test Enan/Cypion or Test Prop

[Beltea]

Hi!

I am a 21 year old male. I have been training for five years. A lot of cardiovascular training, but also weight lifting. Low weight, high rep and fast. I have never tried to gain weight, just tried to stay fit. But now I want to gain mass and strength. I weigh 65 kilograms (130 lbs.), I am 68 inches tall (170 cm).

I have never tested anabolic steroids, but I have been reading for a while now and I have decided to make a first cycle.

I want to keep it clean and simple. Just a testosterone to start with. However, I am not sure which type of tesosterone to use.

From what I've understood, Cypionate and Enanthate is very much alike, but Propionate differ a bit. Propionate seems to be "safer" in terms of its post-cycle androgenic and estrogenic qualites. (?) Meaning that after discontinuation androgen and estrogen levels will drop.

What are your thoughts about this? Am I going in the right direction?
And what are yor thoughts about time-span of cycle, dosage and lenght between injections?

[soccer#3]

Prop requires ed/eod injections if ur up for it. less water retention than ethan and cyp. usually used for cutting.

cyp i think has the most retention of all 3. can be shot twice weekly. used for bulking

enan has a lil less water retention than cyp. can also be shot twice weekly. used for bulking.

the recommended would be test e for maybe 10-12 weeks at 500 mg/week. including a proper pct.

but u might wanna try goin natural for a lil while longer.

good luck

[1buffsob]

Seriously bro. 130lbs is anorexic at your height. You need to eat a hell of a lot more and train heavier. Hold off on the cycle for a few more years.

1buffsob

[Beltea]

Prop requires ed/eod injections if ur up for it. less water retention than ethan and cyp. usually used for cutting.

cyp i think has the most retention of all 3. can be shot twice weekly. used for bulking

enan has a lil less water retention than cyp. can also be shot twice weekly. used for bulking.

the recommended would be test e for maybe 10-12 weeks at 500 mg/week. including a proper pct.

but u might wanna try goin natural for a lil while longer.

good luck

Thanks bro. But what does ed/eod injections mean?

Yes I was thinking to use Nolvadex 40 mg/day for 2 weeks, 1 week after termination of injections (Test Prop) and then 20 mg/day for 2 weeks more. And if problems would arise to start with the Nolvadex 20 mg/day till problems are gone. But one thing I am wondering is, should I continue with the cycle if problems starts to arise and I am taking Nolva?

[Beltea]

Seriously bro. 130lbs is anorexic at your height. You need to eat a hell of a lot more and train heavier. Hold off on the cycle for a few more years.

1buffsob

I am from France, we use kilograms here. I am not sure of 130 lbs. is the right approximation from my side, if you mean that it is anorexic.

I know I need to change my diet and type of training, but as I said mass gaining has never been my goal. I was thinking these steroids would push me off to a good start in gaining mass.

[1buffsob]

5'8", 145lbs are your stats in Standard Measurement. If you're from France, America, Egypt, or Mars, this is small. Steroids are not meant to 'push you off to a good start in gaining mass'. Steroids are needed to surpass genetic limitations. You need to reach a natural base before considering aas use. Change your diet and training NOW, then in a couple of years consider aas.

1buffsob

[soccer#3]

Prop requires ed/eod injections if ur up for it. less water retention than ethan and cyp. usually used for cutting.

cyp i think has the most retention of all 3. can be shot twice weekly. used for bulking

enan has a lil less water retention than cyp. can also be shot twice weekly. used for bulking.

the recommended would be test e for maybe 10-12 weeks at 500 mg/week. including a proper pct.

but u might wanna try goin natural for a lil while longer.

good luck

Thanks bro. But what does ed/eod injections mean?

Yes I was thinking to use Nolvadex 40 mg/day for 2 weeks, 1 week after termination of injections (Test Prop) and then 20 mg/day for 2 weeks more. And if problems would arise to start with the Nolvadex 20 mg/day till problems are gone. But one thing I am wondering is, should I continue with the cycle if problems starts to arise and I am taking Nolva?

it means EveryDay/EveryOtherDay injections

i dont think 65 kg is 130 lbs.. i think its more than that. u might be around somewhere 150 lbs. u can find online conversions on google

[Beltea]

5'8", 145lbs are your stats in Standard Measurement. If you're from France, America, Egypt, or Mars, this is small. Steroids are not meant to 'push you off to a good start in gaining mass'. Steroids are needed to surpass genetic limitations. You need to reach a natural base before considering aas use. Change your diet and training NOW, then in a couple of years consider aas.

1buffsob

What I meant was not that people are small here in France, but rather that my approximation (since we use kilograms in France) of my weight was poor.

I was only talking about the first cycle, which would push me off to a good start in gaining mass. Later on, what one chooses to do, either to continue on steroids or not, to continue "surpassing genetic limitations" is not a paradigm, or an eternal truth.

Merci

[brutesinme]

65 kg equals 143 pounds (kg = lb*2.2) Much too light IMO