How Does my New cycle look

**KDRLINUS** · 04-28-2006, 09:57 AM

Hey guys im looking to begin my next cycle in a few weeks (and to clarify this is NOT my first cycle LOL) i have a few questions listed below, and also any feedback regarding the cycle itself is welcome. Thanks Guys

PRE-CYCLE:
2 weeks prior to cycle .25mg Letro ed

CYCLE:
Test Prop 75mg ed week's 1-??? (cut with 1000mcg B-12)
Test E 600mg ew week's 1-13
EQ 400mg ew week's 1-12
Winny 50mg ed week's 9-15
Letro .25mg ed week's 1-15

PCT:
24 Hrs after last Winny application i will begin Pheedno's PCT

Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
(possibly running Nolva for 45 days if needed)

QUESTIONS:
1.) This is my first experience with Prop so how many weeks would it be ideal to run it as a kickstart?
2.) Would HCG be effective to throw into this program?
3.) If HCG would be a good idea when would i incorporate it into the program and at what iu dosage?

Thanks Again

**FranKieC** · 04-28-2006, 09:59 AM

I would kickstart with the prop between 4-6 weeks..I would also up your eq dose to 600mgs

**KDRLINUS** · 04-28-2006, 10:40 AM

Thanks frankie... i was thinkin 6 weeks on the prop but wanted to make sure.......u really think i should up the EQ huh?

**KDRLINUS** · 04-28-2006, 10:43 PM

anybody else???

**kesh227** · 04-29-2006, 07:27 AM

are you considering any nolva of l-dex during cycle or just going to stick to .25 of letro each day?

SVTMuscle* · 04-29-2006, 08:18 AM

from what i could understand of that, it looks pretty solid i dont kno enough about letro and l-dex to suggest anything but usally people run Prop for about 4 weeks to start off

**taiboxa** · 04-29-2006, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by KDRLINUS

Hey guys im looking to begin my next cycle in a few weeks (and to clarify this is NOT my first cycle LOL) i have a few questions listed below, and also any feedback regarding the cycle itself is welcome. Thanks Guys

PRE-CYCLE:
2 weeks prior to cycle .25mg Letro ed

CYCLE:
Test Prop 75mg ed week's 1-??? (cut with 1000mcg B-12)
Test E 600mg ew week's 1-13
EQ 400mg ew week's 1-12
Winny 50mg ed week's 9-15
Letro .25mg ed week's 1-15

PCT:
24 Hrs after last Winny application i will begin Pheedno's PCT

Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
(possibly running Nolva for 45 days if needed)

QUESTIONS:
1.) This is my first experience with Prop so how many weeks would it be ideal to run it as a kickstart?
2.) Would HCG be effective to throw into this program?
3.) If HCG would be a good idea when would i incorporate it into the program and at what iu dosage?

Thanks Again

1. 4 weeks is fine 5 is ok but if u do 5 then taper the dose on the 5th week
2. no hcg would not be ideal maybe if u ran something like deca or tren yes but w/ this.. no
3. if you were to utilize HCG i would run it for ed for 10days str8. so u wanna start 2 weeks or so before pct run your hcg for 10 days at 500iu ED then stop and start pct at proper time.

**KDRLINUS** · 04-29-2006, 02:10 PM

thanks guys, looks like i will go with prop 5 weeks, and taper the 5th week like suggested...and i will save the hcg for a bulker

i appreciate all the help

**KDRLINUS** · 04-29-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by kesh227

are you considering any nolva of l-dex during cycle or just going to stick to .25 of letro each day?

i will be using ldex and nolve during pct however i will only be using letro during cycle as u dont need both an AI and a SERM.... i am following CBino's post about gyno and then incorporating pheendo's PCT program to counteract the estrogen rebound which will occur when i stop using the letro.

**kesh227** · 04-29-2006, 02:42 PM

Looks good, I like that you're thinking real smart and using the anti-e's properly. good luck with the cycle.

**kdrkid81** · 04-29-2006, 06:08 PM

K A P P A delta R H O honor super omnia were kappa delta rho huhhhhhhhhhh lol pro gonna do you right kidddddddd lol this summer oh boy lol up the eq to 600 be like me lol get some var in there at the end what are you doin tonight hit me up peace

**KDRLINUS** · 05-01-2006, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by kesh227

Looks good, I like that you're thinking real smart and using the anti-e's properly. good luck with the cycle.

thanks Kesh

**KDRLINUS** · 05-01-2006, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by kdrkid81

K A P P A delta R H O honor super omnia were kappa delta rho huhhhhhhhhhh lol pro gonna do you right kidddddddd lol this summer oh boy lol up the eq to 600 be like me lol get some var in there at the end what are you doin tonight hit me up peace

They better that ish was $$$

i will tell ya wat---i will up my EQ dosage when u up your ENTH intake Mr.300mg a week... COUGH wimp COUGH lol JK

**Kale** · 05-01-2006, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

1. 4 weeks is fine 5 is ok but if u do 5 then taper the dose on the 5th week
2. no hcg would not be ideal maybe if u ran something like deca or tren yes but w/ this.. no
3. if you were to utilize HCG i would run it for ed for 10days str8. so u wanna start 2 weeks or so before pct run your hcg for 10 days at 500iu ED then stop and start pct at proper time.

OK big boy explain the taper thing to me, I am doing Test P for five weeks and I will need to do this as well

**KDRLINUS** · 05-01-2006, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

OK big boy explain the taper thing to me, I am doing Test P for five weeks and I will need to do this as well

hey KALE i PM'ed Tai on this and here is what he suggested:

if ur running 100mgED
around middle of week 4 i would switch to 150mg EOD then to 100mg EOD around the half way point in in week 5 then drop it alltogether at end of week 5

since i will be using slightly less than 100mg i adjusted the numbers in my cycle to look like this:
75mg ed week 1-4
middle of week 4 switch to 100 eod
middle of week 5 switch to 75mg eod
end of week 5 drop all together.....

hope that helped

**Kale** · 05-01-2006, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by KDRLINUS

hey KALE i PM'ed Tai on this and here is what he suggested:

if ur running 100mgED
around middle of week 4 i would switch to 150mg EOD then to 100mg EOD around the half way point in in week 5 then drop it alltogether at end of week 5

since i will be using slightly less than 100mg i adjusted the numbers in my cycle to look like this:
75mg ed week 1-4
middle of week 4 switch to 100 eod
middle of week 5 switch to 75mg eod
end of week 5 drop all together.....

hope that helped

Interesting, OK I will give that a try, did he say why ?

**kdrkid81** · 05-01-2006, 11:02 PM

bumped it up to 500 today lol well between 5 and 6 cause its 300 per ml so i got it somewhere in between ending the t bol next week starting my var up at 60 mg ed lol

**taiboxa** · 05-01-2006, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Kale

OK big boy explain the taper thing to me, I am doing Test P for five weeks and I will need to do this as well

well if u look at a chart of how testE stacks on its self due to its lengthy half life u can set up a taper on last one to kinda go w/ the increase of it or u can even taper from week 3 and graducally decrease ur dose by a total of 100mg/wk
say ur running 500mg/wk
well week 4 u runn 400mg/wk and weeks 5 u runn 300mg/wk something to that extent and u can go even more detaild but its too late for me

**KDRLINUS** · 05-02-2006, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by kdrkid81

bumped it up to 500 today lol well between 5 and 6 cause its 300 per ml so i got it somewhere in between ending the t bol next week starting my var up at 60 mg ed lol

make it easy and just run it at 600mg, u have enough cycles under your belt, u will be fine, your gonna frustrate yourself tryin to keep it even... how many weeks is the cycle?