Hi there everyone
I want to take my first cycle, im thinking Deca just on its own is anyone out there that can give me some advise much appreciated
Junior Member
Hi there everyone
I want to take my first cycle, im thinking Deca just on its own is anyone out there that can give me some advise much appreciated
yeah
Whats your age and stats.
Anabolic Member
do some research, thats not a good idea,
run a test only cycle (depends on your stats/age/work out routine)
Junior Member
im 26yo 178cm 5'9 77kg?Originally Posted by horse2006
Anabolic Member
run a 10-12 week test enth 500mg per week cycle, you'll see 20 pounds if you eat right and lean out a bit.
Junior Member
would you sugest deca with test?
Anabolic Member
should really stick to test only on a first cycle but i think a test 500mg and 300mg deca a week wouldnt be a problem.
Junior Member
ok, why cant you just take deca alone can you please tell me?
"Vanity Redefined" ~VET~
Deca is an androgenic/anabolic steroid.. its is a nor19 aas and will COMPLETELY shut you down. meaning you will have all the sides similar to an old man who has gone through menapause i.e. VERY LOW/NO test production. this can be depression, lethargic, moody, no sex drive, impotence and a whole array of other wounderous sides. Deca can not be used by the body as a synthetic test source.. so running deca w/o test is very idiotic. if you would of done a lick of research you would already know this .. THUS I SUGGEST you utilize that handy lil search feature at the top right of your page.
of course if u like impotence, no sex drive, possible depression i say go for it!
Dbol Junkie
its cause deca is nor test, which your body produces in very low amounts. if you run deca by itself it will shut down your bodies natural test production. then your body will switch over to using nor test insetad of regular test. when you end your cycle, your body keeps trying to use what little nor test you have instead of regular test which results in impotence and its harder to keep your gains.
Junior Member
Hey Guys thanks for the info about that, so i can run DECA and
TESTABOL ENANTHATE?
Dbol Junkie
yea, deca/test is a pretty popular stack. imo youd be better running test/equi though.
Junior Member
what would you sugest my first cycle be how much of each?
Dbol Junkie
500 mgs test enanthate every week, and 500 mgs equi every week for 10-12 weeks. the gains you get from equi are solid as hell and easily kept. its ideal to run drugs like that stacked with strong mass builders like test
Junior Member
Yah see ,i have the DECA and i will only be able to get my hands on TESTABOL ENANTHATE 250mg/ml only would this be ok?
Dbol Junkie
yea test/deca is a good stack too. but you need to take more than just the gear. what anti es/pct do you have?
Junior Member
To be honest mate i dont have that yet, is this very important?
Dbol Junkie
extremely bro. if you dont run anti es, youl grow bitch tits, especially with deca/test. and if you dont do propper pct youl lose all your gains... maybe even end up smaller than you were to begin with
Dbol Junkie
trust me bro, running anti es/pct is essential. youl really be kicking yourself later if you blow that off
Junior Member
Ok i will try source it? what pct do you sugest? and the full name for it and how much sould i take, by the way i realy appreciate you info dude.
Dbol Junkie
no problem bro. were here to help. id say that an ideal anti e for you would be letrozole being as you are running deca too (letro will cause less progesterone to be absorbed) you could try running the letro at .5 to .75 mgs ed for the duration of your cycle, plus run it about 2 months after your cycle ends cause your estrogen levels will remain elevated for at least a month after you cycle ends, probably longer. for pct, id say go with clomid starting a little more than 2 weeks after your last shot. run the clomid like this
day 1-10: 210 mgs ed
day 11-20: 140 mgs ed
day 21-35: 100 mgs ed
also i would highly advise running clen during pct as well, cause this will make you keep literally all of your gains. clen is a strong drug though and its important to take it like this
day 1 - 20 mcgs
day 2 - 40 mcgs
day 3 - 60 mcgs
day 4 - 80 mcgs
day 5 - 100 mcgs
day 6 - 125 mcgs
and stay at 125 mcgs ed for about 2 months
Junior Member
ok so taking all this does it give you realy bad side effects? and is clomid a legal substance and easy sourced?
Dbol Junkie
actually you wont feel any negative side effects other that the buzz and shakiness you get from clen (which honestly is very intense) all this good sh_t, letro, clen, clomid, nolva, arimidex, the list goes on, is legal to buy for research purposes. as a matter of fact you can buy it off this site for pretty decent prices too.
Junior Member
Now is the glen a must do? ok well im in England but im an (Aussie) LOL if i get it off this site do you think it will get to me?
Dbol Junkie
yea itl get to you. its not illegal to buy. ive heard that the uk actually has less strict laws on gear anyway. btw clen is ideal cause it makes you keep all of your gains. if you dont run it then youl lose quite alot of size and strength. its not necessary, but personally, i always run it during pct. why give up some gains when you could keep them all for 50 bucks?
Junior Member
Yes see my problem is im looking to do a cycle now however, im going on holidays in August? around the mederterainian
what do you sugest?
Dbol Junkie
dont start the cycle without your anti es and pct. if you want, you can skip the clen, but i wouldn't do that. but you have to realize that you are playing with fire if you dont take anti es. skipping the clomid will cause you to lose ALL of your gains too. trust me bro you need letro and clomid. clen is good but not necessary
Junior Member
yes i will now that you have given me all this informaton i am please you have cheers mate... now would an 8 week cycle with Deca and test be long anough? then take the the letro and clomid? QUOAT: i am only wanting to 1 cycle to gain some size on what i am now? what you sugest?
yeah
I think your best bet would be to put the juice on hold for now and do some reaserch so you know what you are puting into your body and why instead of just taking a few guys advice that you dont even no that away you'll know if the advice your geting is correct or not.
I think TREN BULL has given you some good advise but why not take the time and reaserch the advise given,and the componds mention then if you have any more qeustions come back and post them.
Dbol Junkie
well 8 weeks would yield some good gains. i dont know though bro, i think youd be better off running a 10 week cycle. btw, you need to run the letro starting at the beginning of your cycle, but it would be better if you started the letro about 2 weeks before you start your cycle cause letro takes awhile to stabalise in your blood. haha i started taking roids with the same mentality as you, but trust me, its likely that once you start you wont want to stop taking gear.
Dbol Junkie
its all good bro, i dont mind answering questions in detail. sometimes thats what you need to really get a good knowledge of anabolics and the necessary drugs to prevent unwanted side effects
Junior Member
Dude thanks for you needed advise very much appreciated, will chat to you soon cheers
Dbol Junkie
Dude thanks for you needed advise very much appreciated, will chat to you soon cheers
for sure bro. hit me up with a pm if you got any questions. good luck with your cycle
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