2nd Cycle Critique (Dbol/Enth/Var)

**Grappler13** · 05-01-2006, 08:25 AM

Stats:
5'10"
195
12%BF
Bench 275
Dead 425
Squat (Real ones) 350

My first cycle was 11 weeks of test-e @ 500mg/wk and I took 30mg dbol /ed for the first 4 weeks. Great gains: 20-25 lbs of muscle and lost about the same in fat.

My proposed late summer cycle would be:
Weeks 1-4: 30mg dbol/ed
Weeks 1-12: 600mg test-e
Weeks 9-12: 80mg Var

Goals: 20lbs solid to put me at 215.

I'll run tamox throughout the cycle at 10mg/ed and then PCT with CLomid and tamox. I also may run some HCG during the cycle to keep the boys nice and plump and aid recovery.

**1buffsob** · 05-01-2006, 08:32 AM

Looks good bro

1buffsob

**Kale** · 05-01-2006, 08:35 AM

Looks good but I would run the Var right up to the start of PCT which starts 18 days after your last Test E shot

**1buffsob** · 05-01-2006, 08:37 AM

What Kale said.

1buffsob

**marcus300** · 05-01-2006, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

Looks good but I would run the Var right up to the start of PCT which starts 18 days after your last Test E shot

Thats the one

agreed

**Grappler13** · 05-01-2006, 08:58 AM

Damned fast responses. Guess that's what I'll be runnin. Damn that var is expensive.

**1buffsob** · 05-01-2006, 09:06 AM

That's why I always go with prop till PCT.

1buffsob

**Grappler13** · 06-27-2006, 09:08 PM

I've got ten weeks of Deca for 200mg/ eweek I could run as well. Too much for a second cycle? Is 200mg Deca/ wk even worth it?

**taiboxa** · 06-27-2006, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Grappler13

I've got ten weeks of Deca for 200mg/ eweek I could run as well. Too much for a second cycle? Is 200mg Deca/ wk even worth it?

yeah i think its too much unless ur thinking ur going to die in a year.. then run everything u want LOL but i thinks u gots all the time in the world and best to take it slow and really LEARN your body and feel it out

**guest589745** · 06-27-2006, 11:36 PM

Looks like mine but Im goin with deca too and different doses. I got about 5 months to go hopefully.

You could probly get away with goin 6 weeks with Dbol IMO. Maybe get bloodwork at 4 weeks then see where everything is at and go from there. Use some liv52 or thistle for a little protection from the 17aa's.

Lets both hope var's worth the price. Im only gonna be usin 40mg ED.