Summer cycle lean hard look

**dagreek2222** · 05-01-2006, 01:55 PM

I'm 20 years old 5"11 180 don't know bf % this is my first cycle.

1-14 test prop 125mg/eod 500mg/wk
1-12 Eq 500mg/wk
got 50 caps of 50mg proviron going to take when i work out prolly will get more mid way thru cycle
got 100 caps of 20mg nolva will start taking 20mg nolva midway thru cycle
getting Liquidex not sure how much a drop is under the tounge will be doing .5mg 1mg is this correct like A-dex?

Also i'm going to be on a strict diet. i have never kept consitant with a diet so i expect to see big changes just from that.

looking for lean hard look i'm also training for football season d3 no testing. cant wait to start any one else have any feed back on a similar cycle as this with test p and how it went that would be great.

**tank2005** · 05-01-2006, 01:59 PM

the guys on here will tell you ,you are to young and can do it natty.......

**marcus300** · 05-01-2006, 02:00 PM

To young to do AAS in my opinion, at your age you will have enough hormones floating around to make really good gains naturally, id concentrate on your diet and training program this will put some decent muscle tissue on your frame.

how long have you been training?

**Booz** · 05-01-2006, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by tank2005

the guys on here will tell you ,you are to young and can do it natty.......

**Bigmax** · 05-01-2006, 02:09 PM

True stats will help everyone help you.But bro at 20 you dont need to use any AAS. Train hard keep your diet clean and see where it goes from there.

**crash187ct** · 05-01-2006, 02:12 PM

1st cycle should be test only anyways.

**dagreek2222** · 05-01-2006, 02:14 PM

Been training for a few years not consistant enough im thinking of 1 cycle a year. not going to be doing another cycle till next summer if this one goes well. Got moved to weakside linebacker next year and have a chance to start. I am built like a reciever right now my strength is lacking big time just looking to get this cycle over with done right and be totally committed and maintain natty until next summer.

**bignatt** · 05-01-2006, 02:17 PM

If you insist on doing it i would suggest using enanthate rather than prop its easier to shoot once a week your first cycle

**marcus300** · 05-01-2006, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by bignatt

If you insist on doing it i would suggest using enanthate rather than prop its easier to shoot once a week your first cycle

That answer as got to of come from someone who started young,

at 20yrs old your to young, take the advice and dont use anything, use what you have already naturally.

**tank2005** · 05-01-2006, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Booz

BOOZ THAT MADE ME PISS MY PANTS MATE .....................V FUNNY.........................YOU ARE GREAT ...........

**C_Bino** · 05-01-2006, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

That answer as got to of come from someone who started young,

at 20yrs old your to young, take the advice and dont use anything, use what you have already naturally.

Agreed. There is no need to run a cycle at this age period.

**marcus300** · 05-01-2006, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

Agreed. There is no need to run a cycle at this age period.

amen...

**bignatt** · 05-01-2006, 02:27 PM

Its obvious that he is not going to take the advice of not doing the cycle

**marcus300** · 05-01-2006, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by bignatt

Its obvious that he is not going to take the advice of not doing the cycle

young and very clever....he is asking for advice, you a mind reader?

**testosterona** · 05-01-2006, 02:30 PM

marcus you were around when they did that age pole, right? most of the vet's and mods here started from ages 18-21yr old. the difference between test levels btween a 20yr old and a 23yr old is not signifficant enough to say that at 20yrs you'll get better gains. Although, i agree with you guys in saying that he is not ready. he told us already that he has never concentraited on diet. that alone says he could make great gains naturally. good luck bro, eating is all there is to it.

**bignatt** · 05-01-2006, 02:32 PM

Cmon Marcus how many of these threads have you seen when the guy is 18 19 or 20 and does the cycle anyways....and he states he wants to do the cycle anyways and then stay natural

**marcus300** · 05-01-2006, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by testosterona

marcus you were around when they did that age pole, right? most of the vet's and mods here started from ages 18-21yr old. the difference between test levels btween a 20yr old and a 23yr old is not signifficant enough to say that at 20yrs you'll get better gains. Although, i agree with you guys in saying that he is not ready. he told us already that he has never concentraited on diet. that alone says he could make great gains naturally. good luck bro, eating is all there is to it.

He is to young for AAS, alot of people who started young are on hrt sooner than they should, i know plenty, this is why younger BB's should take the advice off people who have been there and done it.

**testosterona** · 05-01-2006, 02:36 PM

marcus, is "age" the determining factor in AAS use? if so, at what age is it "ok". what about training exp, diet, mental health, sports, ect.....?

**marcus300** · 05-01-2006, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by bignatt

Cmon Marcus how many of these threads have you seen when the guy is 18 19 or 20 and does the cycle anyways....and he states he wants to do the cycle anyways and then stay natural

They should take the advice of the experienced ones, as you will know eventually, peace

**marcus300** · 05-01-2006, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by testosterona

marcus, is "age" the determining factor in AAS use? if so, at what age is it "ok". what about training exp, diet, mental health, sports, ect.....?

now you talking daft, NO but it does count for alot when gains can be obtained naturally,

Theres alot of factors age is just one of them.

**dagreek2222** · 05-01-2006, 02:42 PM

I understand what you all are saying but the fact is guys are starting to use AAS at 18 19 even more next year. As a football player in d3 where there is no testing unless suspected of doing drugs. I know many players who are into D-bol. These guys look like they cant turn their steering wheel and need help to wipe their own ass they are so stiff and bulky.
Anyways I believe with the type of training a football player does compared to the typical AAS user at golds is night and day and i will be seeing some amazing results with my training.

I just looking for some advice on the cycle im getting the gear today and starting june 12th.

although i agree with "To young to do AAS in my opinion, at your age you will have enough hormones floating around to make really good gains naturally, id concentrate on your diet and training program this will put some decent muscle tissue on your frame."

The thing with this is when your at college other then the 2.5 months your at home for the summer you dont have the type of life to really diet right and train like you want to.

So above is my cycle and what im working with any advice would be great.

**bignatt** · 05-01-2006, 02:42 PM

Marcus i can say 90% that this kid is going to do the cycle anyways so i gave him a suggestion do i think he should do it.....no but if hes going to hes going to there was nowhere that i suggested he do it so there is no need to be a condescending towards me

**bignatt** · 05-01-2006, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by dagreek2222

I understand what you all are saying but the fact is guys are starting to use AAS at 18 19 even more next year. As a football player in d3 where there is no testing unless suspected of doing drugs. I know many players who are into D-bol. These guys look like they cant turn their steering wheel and need help to wipe their own ass they are so stiff and bulky.
Anyways I believe with the type of training a football player does compared to the typical AAS user at golds is night and day and i will be seeing some amazing results with my training.

I just looking for some advice on the cycle im getting the gear today and starting june 12th.

although i agree with "To young to do AAS in my opinion, at your age you will have enough hormones floating around to make really good gains naturally, id concentrate on your diet and training program this will put some decent muscle tissue on your frame."

The thing with this is when your at college other then the 2.5 months your at home for the summer you dont have the type of life to really diet right and train like you want to.

So above is my cycle and what im working with any advice would be great.

so like i said marcus he was going to do it anyways

**marcus300** · 05-01-2006, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by bignatt

so like i said marcus he was going to do it anyways

ive just read on another thread he that this its going to be his 5th cycle, your right no helping him, 5 th cycle at the age of 20??????

**C_Bino** · 05-01-2006, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by dagreek2222

Anyways I believe with the type of training a football player does compared to the typical AAS user at golds is night and day and i will be seeing some amazing results with my training. Than you havent been to a gym where bodybuilders workout.

The thing with this is when your at college other then the 2.5 months your at home for the summer you dont have the type of life to really diet right and train like you want to.Yes you can, in fact I am in university right now and have been for quite a few years. It takes dedication, I would say that about 98% of people who say they cant stick to a diet etc are just making excuses, you simply dont have the dedication it takes plain and simple.

So above is my cycle and what im working with any advice would be great.

Marcus already gave y ou the best advice you can get, dont do a cycle. Any respectable member on here wont tell you to do a cycle so thats the only advice you can get. Wait a few years and do a real cycle, or listen to your football buddies who run shitty d-bol cycles and get half the results you would running 10 of those than you would if you waited a few years and ran a real cycle with real diet and training.

**dagreek2222** · 05-01-2006, 02:55 PM

Alright guys stop your bitching first off im 20 I don't believe calling me a kid is accurate. 2nd if your gonna bash me on my age and doing AAS for training for football. may i ask why others use AAS when they arent training for anything. I bet alot of the people on this site just do AAS for the ladies and the beach which is fine but couldn't you just say bro there is no reason to do AAS if your not training for anything like sport or competition. I have seen many of AAS users at golds we have all seen them the guys who put on more weight then they can lift have bad form and look at the mirrors and walk around stiff the majority of the time. Also the classicteam bench press when the guy needs 3 spotters to lift the weight.

-14 test prop 125mg/eod 500mg/wk
1-12 Eq 500mg/wk
got 50 caps of 50mg proviron going to take when i work out prolly will get more mid way thru cycle
got 100 caps of 20mg nolva will start taking 20mg nolva midway thru cycle
getting Liquidex not sure how much a drop is under the tounge will be doing .5mg 1mg is this correct like A-dex?

so thats my cycle i plan on doing any advice?

**dagreek2222** · 05-01-2006, 03:03 PM

Bino in 3 years its all over buddy why would i use AAS after my football career.

anyways i respect all you guys telling me not to do the cycle im just looking for advice on what i plan on doing. I can always make a new user name and post this cycle again a few weeks from now. I plan on hitting people so hard next season they wont ever want come back out on that field

im pumped up and good to go.
C bino if your at a university right now and have been for a few years then aren't you a lil young your self.

**T3/T4 GSR** · 05-01-2006, 09:03 PM

You guys gotta realize that some of the bigger guys you see started juicing at 16 or so. Not the best idea but 20 isn't that bad. Juice is a personal choice. Some people are willing to take more of a risk than others. I started at 20 and I have no regret and I knew the risks going on. I am a drug experimenter though so I look at it a little different. Steroids fascinated me for years since I was a little kid and I pretty much planned to take them when I got older from around the time I was 12. So starting at 20 isn't bad as long as you know all the risks and you do it right. A shitty cycle at 20 is a shitty cycle no matter what age you are.

**C_Bino** · 05-01-2006, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by dagreek2222

Bino in 3 years its all over buddy why would i use AAS after my football career.

anyways i respect all you guys telling me not to do the cycle im just looking for advice on what i plan on doing. I can always make a new user name and post this cycle again a few weeks from now. I plan on hitting people so hard next season they wont ever want come back out on that field

im pumped up and good to go.
C bino if your at a university right now and have been for a few years then aren't you a lil young your self.

Well if you are gonna do it you are gonna do it. Did I start a bit too young ya maybe I did. But that is how we learn and can share our experiences with others. Just like dosages for these cycles etc, we know because of experience and we help eachother that way. So I am sharing with you the fact that I think starting at 20 is a bit too young. Its definitely not horrible like 16 years old but still not the best idea.

**dagreek2222** · 05-02-2006, 03:02 PM

14 test prop 125mg/eod 500mg/wk
1-12 Eq 500mg/wk
got 50 caps of 50mg proviron going to take when i work out prolly will get more mid way thru cycle
got 100 caps of 20mg nolva will start taking 20mg nolva midway thru cycle
getting Liquidex not sure how much a drop is under the tounge will be doing .5mg 1mg is this correct like A-dex?

so thats my cycle i plan on doing any advice?
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