4 weeks on ,4 off cycles

[fitguy]

hey guys ,i was curious about feedback from guys who ran this type of cycles ,i was thinking maybe 4weeks on 4 off then maybe a long 8-12 weeks cycle or maybe another 4weeker if i liked the gains from it ,any feedback ??

[anaBROLIC]

what would you run for just 4 weeks? and how keepable do you think the gains would be from such a short cycle? i especially dont like the idea because after that you got pct those next 4 weeks. i like to give my body a little more time after pct before jumping into another cycle.. 4 week cycles would be a big waste of time/money imo.

[1buffsob]

4 weeks on? Even the shortest cycles aren't less than 6 weeks, and typically those are lined up with huge dosings. If you're new to cycling, your best bet is the typical 500mg test ew 10-12 weeks.

1buffsob

[eljugo16]

i totally agree wit anaBROLIC

[J0E]

what would you run for just 4 weeks? and how keepable do you think the gains would be from such a short cycle? i especially dont like the idea because after that you got pct those next 4 weeks. i like to give my body a little more time after pct before jumping into another cycle.. 4 week cycles would be a big waste of time/money imo.

I think you hit it on the head bro.

[marcus300]

4 weeks cycles are very good and very productive if they are designed correctly and the right compounds are used, now for 4 weeks off ??? this all depends on how you recover, you have enough time off cycle for your body to fully recover,

Remember with any short cycle priming the body is one of the most important things you can do, never leave home without it!!

[mkrulic]

depends on what you run. If its all short ester stuff you might like it. I typically run 6 week cycles and love em.

[1buffsob]

4 weeks cycles are very good and very productive if they are designed correctly and the right compounds are used, now for 4 weeks off ??? this all depends on how you recover, you have enough time off cycle for your body to fully recover,

Remember with any short cycle priming the body is one of the most important things you can do, never leave home without it!!

I knew you were going to chime in on this.

I like the huge dose/short cycles, but I don't feel comfortable recommending it to someone who is new to aas. He'd get lost just with the proper priming procedures. haha

1buffsob

[marcus300]

I knew you were going to chime in on this.

I like the huge dose/short cycles, but I don't feel comfortable recommending it to someone who is new to aas. He'd get lost just with the proper priming procedures. haha

1buffsob

I am not recommending a short heavy cycle at all, i don't even know his stats or level he is at, i was just answering his question on 4wk on 4 off cycles,

short cycles do work and can be designed at any level but the right compounds and the correct procedure must be implemented,

But for someone who is new to the game they should stick with the normal length cycles and get some experience on using the compounds.

[1buffsob]

I knew you weren't recommending it to him Marcus. haha. I just didn't bring it up so as to not give him any ideas.

1buffsob

[anaBROLIC]

im not too much of a fan of short cycle especially less then 6 weeks. but i know it can work for some. a short cycle would be more beneficial for results on someone who already has low bf, good build, with a good amount of cycle experience.

[marcus300]

I knew you weren't recommending it to him Marcus. haha. I just didn't bring it up so as to not give him any ideas.

1buffsob

i didnt

[marcus300]

im not too much of a fan of short cycle especially less then 6 weeks. but i know it can work for some. a short cycle would be more beneficial for results on someone who already has low bf, good build, with a good amount of cycle experience.

Thats better, everyone is different and BB's should try all aspects of cycling and find what works for them.

[fitguy]

4 weeks cycles are very good and very productive if they are designed correctly and the right compounds are used, now for 4 weeks off ??? this all depends on how you recover, you have enough time off cycle for your body to fully recover,

Remember with any short cycle priming the body is one of the most important things you can do, never leave home without it!!

yeah ,reading your posts are the reason for considering this type of cycling in the first place ,i am not talking about the short heavy cycles ,i am talking about short cycles with low doses and short esters ,maybe a test suspension short cycle..umm i dunno

[Bigmax]

There has been alot of talk and discussion about both.......My opinion if youve been doing AAs for bit and are experienced you can do short fast acting gear cycles.Newbies are a different story,I think they would benefit more from a 12 to 16 week cycle of some test and run some deca till they more knowlede and experience.(my opinion)

[AleX-69]

I am not recommending a short heavy cycle at all, i don't even know his stats or level he is at, i was just answering his question on 4wk on 4 off cycles,

short cycles do work and can be designed at any level but the right compounds and the correct procedure must be implemented,

But for someone who is new to the game they should stick with the normal length cycles and get some experience on using the compounds.

/signed

[cfiler]

A four week cycle can be very good if done properly. It's best to run it like this.

4 weeks on
4 weeks off
4 weeks on
8 weeks off

This is what has been suggested for prohormones, and will apply to aas aswell.

[marcus300]

with short cycles there is no specified off time you should be off for, time off is detirmined by your recovery and blood work results

[vitor]

with short cycles there is no specified off time you should be off for, time off is detirmined by your recovery and blood work results

And your bank-account, lol. This isnt a cheap live-style...

[fitguy]

yeah ,reading your posts are the reason for considering this type of cycling in the first place ,i am not talking about the short heavy cycles ,i am talking about short cycles with low doses and short esters ,maybe a test suspension short cycle..umm i dunno

come on marcus ,is it a good idea ?

[taiboxa]

4 weeks cycles are very good and very productive if they are designed correctly and the right compounds are used, now for 4 weeks off ??? this all depends on how you recover, you have enough time off cycle for your body to fully recover,

Remember with any short cycle priming the body is one of the most important things you can do, never leave home without it!!

i like blitz cycles like he sed but..
the 4 on 4off is going to be a shytty ass hormonal rollercoaster that is going to be less than profitable in many areas.

[marcus300]

come on marcus ,is it a good idea ?

ive asked before post your stats and previous cycle history, then put a short cycle together and post it, we will advice the best we can

you have to do some work you know!!

[taiboxa]

ive asked before post your stats and previous cycle history, then put a short cycle together and post it, we will advice the best we can

you have to do some work you know!!

NO NO u must lead thy horse to water and help thy horse drink!

[fitguy]

NO NO u must lead thy horse to water and help thy horse drink!

[fitguy]

ive asked before post your stats and previous cycle history, then put a short cycle together and post it, we will advice the best we can

you have to do some work you know!!

stats : 160-165lbs ,lean ,185cm tall
previous cycles : 9 weeks of test at 500mg twice before ,the 2nd time i wasnt eating well due to a lot of family issues but now i am back..
ps: my pics are in the members pics forums ,i am looking mainly to bulk lean mass i was thinking maybe a test suspension at 50mg for 4 or 6 weeks along with something that is mild on the hair ,maybe deca or something ...

[brundle]

185cm (6 feet) and 160 pounds?? forget about juice. sounds like you need to EAT and LIFT.

[fitguy]

185cm (6 feet) and 160 pounds?? forget about juice. sounds like you need to EAT and LIFT.

see my diet in the diet forums and check out my pics ..

[Bigmax]

Ok guy just saw your pics....All I can say is with my own experience is this, at your age I would train by ba**s off.Along with eating mad food high protein and carbs try to gain as much as you can natty.youi're a tall guy and 160lbs you can fill your frame out natty first.Then you can think about AAS.When you do get to that step i still dont think that you would benefit much from 4 weeker.Not that 4 weeks cycles are bad but you do not have the experience to what you're doing with them.I started at 6' 173lbs.Trained and ate as hard as i could got 190 then started with AAS now I'm 279 11%.Of course that was 10yrs ago when I started at 173.But my point is to get all you can before you start doing anything.(just my opinion and experience)

[fitguy]

Ok guy just saw your pics....All I can say is with my own experience is this, at your age I would train by ba**s off.Along with eating mad food high protein and carbs try to gain as much as you can natty.youi're a tall guy and 160lbs you can fill your frame out natty first.Then you can think about AAS.When you do get to that step i still dont think that you would benefit much from 4 weeker.Not that 4 weeks cycles are bad but you do not have the experience to what you're doing with them.I started at 6' 173lbs.Trained and ate as hard as i could got 190 then started with AAS now I'm 279 11%.Of course that was 10yrs ago when I started at 173.But my point is to get all you can before you start doing anything.(just my opinion and experience)

thanks bro for your advice and nice progress you got there but seriously though i stuff myself with food and cant gain much and if i tend to eat the same with little gear i gain mass ,i have been training for sometime and know what works for me but again thanks for the advice ...
now back to my main question ,well i considered a short cycle of suspension cause i dont think that i can stick myself more than that ,and after all the reading about 4 week cycles i believe that it might work in theory but i dunno how will it work for me ,i was curious about feedback from guys who did it before ...

[block]

I have done many short cycles as little boster before event shortest ran was 5 weeks though and was test prop tren ace and winny all at high does well to me they were high.
1-5 winny 50-100-50 ect
1-5 test 150ed
1-5 tren 150ed
got rock soild also got sides mostly from the tren

so run test sup and tren ace both at 50-100mg ed for 4-6 weeks it will work but you are not going to get huge size gains as this mostly for cutting imp

[Bigmax]

Decent for you Block but the boy says he wants size,the type of cycle you described is as you said for hardness.Listen fit guy if you just have to do a cycle do 10 weeker of test enan. at 500 mgs a week.It is a basic cycle and we can see how much progress you make in 10 weeks.You should do real providing you keep your calories high as well as your protein.

[eljugo16]

don't waste your money on a 4 week cycle

[marcus300]

don't waste your money on a 4 week cycle

4weeks cycles are very good and very productive if they are designed correctly and the right compounds are used, now for 4 weeks off ??? this all depends on how you recover, you have enough time off cycle for your body to fully recover,

Remember with any short cycle priming the body is one of the most important things you can do, never leave home without it!!

[AleX-69]

4weeks cycles are very good and very productive if they are designed correctly and the right compounds are used, now for 4 weeks off ??? this all depends on how you recover, you have enough time off cycle for your body to fully recover,

Remember with any short cycle priming the body is one of the most important things you can do, never leave home without it!!

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IF i am allowd to i'll add this to my sig also, as it is in fact REALLY important!

[marcus300]

Plz add this to your sig, it 'll save you countless hours of typing this over and over and over again!
IF i am allowd to i'll add this to my sig also, as it is in fact REALLY important!

Alex69, i am glad some have relised this, the prime gives you a massive advantage to produce fast muscle tissue growth at the first few weeks if any cycle, but ive got to say its a MUST for any short cycle.

[fitguy]

4weeks cycles are very good and very productive if they are designed correctly and the right compounds are used, now for 4 weeks off ??? this all depends on how you recover, you have enough time off cycle for your body to fully recover,

Remember with any short cycle priming the body is one of the most important things you can do, never leave home without it!!

ok what is a good aas to stack with suspension which is mild on the hair ?

[marcus300]

To be honest fitguy, at 160lbs and at your height i think you could gain plenty with a good diet and training program, i would try a very intense training with a bulking diet for a few months, get some solid mass on your frame and then start to plan a cycle out,

If its a short cycle you want to try id i would do some bulking with just diet over the next few weeks then prime for the short cycle for 6-8 weeks, and i am sure you will be in a far better position then to gain some decent muscle tissue

[cfiler]

Your last two cycles sucked. Test for nine weeks? You only had test active for 4-5 weeks. Your best bet would be to stick with a plain test cycle for 10-12 weeks. Even though you can gain WAY more mass naturally, I know you are not going to listen to our advise about that, so why bother.