First cycle what do you's think?

**andomister** · 05-02-2006, 03:38 PM

Week 1 to 6: 200mg of Deca D weekly (because i already have this?)
Week 1 to 10: 500mg of test weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Clenbuterol for PCT

Give me your idears guy's

**pmorris** · 05-02-2006, 03:40 PM

do more research 1st off dont run deca at 200mg and dont run it for 6 weeks it will do nothing ... as for pct run nolva or clo you dont need both. You are not ready for a cycle do some more research

**anaBROLIC** · 05-02-2006, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by andomister

Week 1 to 10: 300mg of Deca D weekly (because i already have this?)
Week 1 to 12: 500mg of test weekly
weel 1-10 b6 200mgs/day
week 1-14 10mgs nolva/day
wk 14 - 20mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 16 - 20mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
Clenbuterol for PCT

Give me your idears guy's

my opinion
with more research...

**marcus300** · 05-02-2006, 03:44 PM

Test only 500mg per wk for 12 weeks ,proper pct and good solid diet and training program, thats all you need for first cycle,

how old are you and how long you been training??

**Swifto** · 05-02-2006, 03:46 PM

You got some of it right. Its better than some new cycles I've seen layed out recently so its evident you've done some research.

Drop the Deca and go with Test Enan or Cyp 500mg/wk for 12 weeks. Keep a SERM on hand if estrogen related sides arise. It may also be wise to use an AI (I like Proviron ) whilst "on" and during PCT.

**Swifto** · 05-02-2006, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Test only 500mg per wk for 12 weeks ,proper pct and good solid diet and training program, thats all you need for first cycle,how old are you and how long you been training??

To quick for me today Marcus...

**andomister** · 05-02-2006, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Test only 500mg per wk for 12 weeks ,proper pct and good solid diet and training program, thats all you need for first cycle,

how old are you and how long you been training??

im 26 been traing off and on 4 years 77kg 178cm 14% b?f?

**anaBROLIC** · 05-02-2006, 03:48 PM

i def agree with marcus 100 percent on test only for your first cycle. i only kept everything in there as he layed it out incase he decides to run what he wants to. at least do it the right way.

**andomister** · 05-02-2006, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by anaBROLIC

i def agree with marcus 100 percent on test only for your first cycle. i only kept everything in there as he layed it out incase he decides to run what he wants to. at least do it the right way.

so dont even touch the deca you guys think? i have it already thats why i thought i might chuck that in with it as well.... lol

**Swifto** · 05-02-2006, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by andomister

so dont even touch the deca you guys think? i have it already thats why i thought i might chuck that in with it as well.... lol

Just because you have it doesnt mean you are required to use it immediately. Keep it for a future cycle.

**andomister** · 05-02-2006, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Test only 500mg per wk for 12 weeks ,proper pct and good solid diet and training program, thats all you need for first cycle,

how old are you and how long you been training??

what pct you recomend then marcus?

SVTMuscle* · 05-02-2006, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by pmorris

do more research 1st off dont run deca at 200mg and dont run it for 6 weeks it will do nothing ... as for pct run nolva or clo you dont need both. You are not ready for a cycle do some more research

maybe you need to do some more research also....

**anaBROLIC** · 05-02-2006, 03:56 PM

def hold off on the deca bro. it sounds like you dont have enough to take anyways by the way you layed it out.. save it and get more for a future cycle. but yea test for 10-12 weeks is a very good first cycle.

**Swifto** · 05-02-2006, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

maybe you need to do some more research also....

Possibly.

I would use both Nolva and Clomid, however.

As for PCT, I use HCG /Proviron /Nolva.

**andomister** · 05-02-2006, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

maybe you need to do some more research also....

ok so Test E only cycle 10-12 weeks then what to use for pct?

SVTMuscle* · 05-02-2006, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by andomister

ok so Test E only cycle 10-12 weeks then what to use for pct?

You had it right with Nolva and Clomid

**Swifto** · 05-02-2006, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by andomister

ok so Test E only cycle 10-12 weeks then what to use for pct?

If its evident you arnt aware what PCT is? You shouldnt be cycling or even laying a cycle out IMHO.

**andomister** · 05-02-2006, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by anaBROLIC

def hold off on the deca bro. it sounds like you dont have enough to take anyways by the way you layed it out.. save it and get more for a future cycle. but yea test for 10-12 weeks is a very good first cycle.

so how much kg am i suspected to put on in 10-12 weeks with a good high protine diet ECT 10-12kg?

**andomister** · 05-02-2006, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

If its evident you arnt aware what PCT is? You shouldnt be cycling or even laying a cycle out IMHO.

i am aware of it im just getting your thought on this i thought thats what this furam is all about? i was thinking clomid? 2 weeks after cycle?

**andomister** · 05-02-2006, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by SVTMuscle

You had it right with Nolva and Clomid

cheers for that svt muscle much appreciated

**anaBROLIC** · 05-02-2006, 04:03 PM

okay lets go back to the beginning. answer a few questions

how old are you?
how long have you been training(consistantly)?
how much do you weigh?
how long have you been researching your cycle?

**Swifto** · 05-02-2006, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by andomister

i am aware of it im just getting your thought on this i thought thats what this furam is all about? i was thinking clomid? 2 weeks after cycle?

Ok.

I dont use Clomid as it brings emotional problems and I cant chance it vision problems as I'm blind in my right eye now. So blury vision would really affect me greatly. I use HCG /Nolva/Proviron , as follows.

wk 1-3 HCG 1000ius/ED (Mon/Wed/Fri)
wk 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED
wk 1-6 Proviron 50mg/ED.
Vit-E/B-complex/***** 3's/Vit-C/Multi-vitamin/Creatine and L-Glutamine also.

I may also extend the Proviron for a 3-4 more weeks at 25mg/ED and may use it as a bridge between cycles. I may do this for my upcoming PCT and bridge between cycling again.

**JerzeyBoy** · 05-02-2006, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by andomister

Week 1 to 6: 200mg of Deca D weekly (because i already have this?)
Week 1 to 10: 500mg of test weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Clenbuterol for PCT

Give me your idears guy's

Test and Deca is a good first cycle in my opinion but your numbers are f*cked.

week 1-10: 500mg of test (shots split on mon and thurs)
week 1-9: 300mg of deca (shots split on mon and thurs)

Your pct is all messed up I dont even wanna get all into it. Find out the half life on your test and base your PCT on that...

If you need help pm me

**andomister** · 05-02-2006, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by anaBROLIC

okay lets go back to the beginning. answer a few questions

how old are you?
how long have you been training(consistantly)?
how much do you weigh?
how long have you been researching your cycle?

im 26yo
been traing on and off over the last 4 years CONSTANTLY again over the last 9 months...
weigh 77KG 178cm tall 14% body fat
been researching a cycle and the last 3 weeks.. heard of different people at the gym as well

**anaBROLIC** · 05-02-2006, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by andomister

im 26yo
been traing on and off over the last 4 years CONSTANTLY again over the last 9 months...
weigh 77KG 178cm tall 14% body fat
been researching a cycle and the last 3 weeks.. heard of different people at the gym as well

whatever you do dont take advice from guys in the gym. there may be some knowledgable guys there but in most cases guys in the gym dont know a thing!! .. my advice would be to stay simple like marcus and the other guys were saying. but before you actually start injecting yourself, stay on here and learn more about the compounds your using and do alottt of research in the pct, diet, training forums..

**andomister** · 05-02-2006, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by anaBROLIC

whatever you do dont take advice from guys in the gym. there may be some knowledgable guys there but in most cases guys in the gym dont know a thing!! .. my advice would be to stay simple like marcus and the other guys were saying. but before you actually start injecting yourself, stay on here and learn more about the compounds your using and do alottt of research in the pct, diet, training forums..

yeah thanks anabrolic, just want to fine tune my pct now, got some good comebacks with test E only for 10-12 weeks cheers dudes