Gains To Expect?

**kyjelly** · 05-04-2006, 02:03 PM

Considering if one's diet and cardio are sensible, and runninng this cycle...

Test E 500mg/week wk 1-10 not 12
Dbol 30mg/ED wk 1-4

What gains/keep gains are expected to make? Also, how much is the water retention with Dbol?

**cfiler** · 05-04-2006, 02:51 PM

Everyone is different, but I would say 15-20lbs.

**marcus300** · 05-05-2006, 05:05 AM

Hard to say ,alot is down to the diet and how you personally build muscle and hold water

**valcon** · 05-05-2006, 05:10 AM

also how hard you train,,,, and pct

**RobbieG** · 05-05-2006, 05:16 AM

My suggestion ?
change:
Dbol 30mg/ED wk 1-4
to:
Dbol 20mg/ED wk 1-7

Methandion works at low dosage, atleast in my case.
I can go low as 15 mg ed and still make noticable gains

I've seen my buddies go sky-high with these 2 compunds, probably in mid july I´ll do a similar cycle as you, only I'm heading at lower dosage with dbol and add proviron and nolva as pct

Is this your first cycle ?

**kyjelly** · 05-05-2006, 07:11 AM

Its my bros first cycle.

Test E 500mg/week he said only wk 1-10, for personal reasons.
Dbol 30mg/ED wk 1-4
Nolvadex 20mg/ED wk 1-10 (and PCT)
Clomid 100 to 50 mg/ED PCT

Yes, its his first cycle, he is 25, and has everything like workout experiance, diet, and cardio all in check.