HGH - fragment 177-191

[Merc..]

There was a post about this awile back but nobody had any feedback on it at that time . Does anyone have any input on this ?? Does it work or is it BS?? Heres the other thread on it with some info about it!!! http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=HGH+fragment

Does this stuff really help with fatloss??

[peump]

one person said that it did in fact help with fat loss.
that person did not go into great detail.


i hope to get more feedback from others,
as more people start trying this stuff out.

[ascendant]

the problems you're going to have is that the chem is so new that not many people have tried it yet. we all know way too well how so many chems n supplements come onto the market, all to fade away or just sit and collect dust after people find out how worthless they are. what shows if something works is the test of time.

for example, creatine has been around for years, but since it works, you're continually finding "new and improved" products with creatine in them. though creatine itself can't be "improved" on, just the fact that it's still such a prominent product and has lasted shows it's effectiveness.

as far as replies on if it works or not, you can't fully trust them, because remember the majority of the population will respond to placebos simply because they think they should be getting results. some people get worked up that they're on some new supplement and train harder, focus more on their diet, or do something else along those lines that is what actually improves their results, but they'll give the credit to the supplement. sometimes, just the pure psychological factor alone will give them better results, but that doesn't have anything to do with what they're actually taking.

the best info you can get is from independent researchers that are not funded by the makers of the product to do the research. this will show they're not swayed either way to give results. even still, you'll still want to check at least a few of those considering money is sometimes handed "under the table" to research labs.

regretfully, i believe it will be quite some time before we know for sure if this stuff works or not. you can try it, but at this point, the general public (aka us) is not aware of that chems effectiveness or more importantly, it's side-effects.

[Merc..]

the problems you're going to have is that the chem is so new that not many people have tried it yet. we all know way too well how so many chems n supplements come onto the market, all to fade away or just sit and collect dust after people find out how worthless they are. what shows if something works is the test of time.

for example, creatine has been around for years, but since it works, you're continually finding "new and improved" products with creatine in them. though creatine itself can't be "improved" on, just the fact that it's still such a prominent product and has lasted shows it's effectiveness.

as far as replies on if it works or not, you can't fully trust them, because remember the majority of the population will respond to placebos simply because they think they should be getting results. some people get worked up that they're on some new supplement and train harder, focus more on their diet, or do something else along those lines that is what actually improves their results, but they'll give the credit to the supplement. sometimes, just the pure psychological factor alone will give them better results, but that doesn't have anything to do with what they're actually taking.

the best info you can get is from independent researchers that are not funded by the makers of the product to do the research. this will show they're not swayed either way to give results. even still, you'll still want to check at least a few of those considering money is sometimes handed "under the table" to research labs.

regretfully, i believe it will be quite some time before we know for sure if this stuff works or not. you can try it, but at this point, the general public (aka us) is not aware of that chems effectiveness or more importantly, it's side-effects.

Right on !! Thanks for the input!!