My opinion...

[Pneumatic]

In my opinion judging from the modern "average" dosage recommendations I read here and all over the internet I think the usual user is using way too much. Occaissonaly I read of someone getting great results from weekly (or less often) 250mg of a long chain test ester or 25mg daily Dbol dosage and I think that alot of BB's are at the least tryin to fix a faulty training program thru overkill hormone dosages. This massive dosing is and will cause the user equally massive health probs in they're later yrs (even tho most could presently care less?).

If I'm wrong straighten me out.

Again, this is just my basically and permanently NOVICE steroid knowledge.

[HORSE~]

Id post this in the lounge.

[wolar32]

In my opinion judging from the modern "average" dosage recommendations I read here and all over the internet I think the usual user is using way too much. Occaissonaly I read of someone getting great results from weekly (or less often) 250mg of a long chain test ester or 25mg daily Dbol dosage and I think that alot of BB's are at the least tryin to fix a faulty training program thru overkill hormone dosages. This massive dosing is and will cause the user equally massive health probs in they're later yrs (even tho most could presently care less?).

If I'm wrong straighten me out.

Again, this is just my basically and permanently NOVICE steroid knowledge.

I can't say I disagree. I got by with 250-500mg week of sust 250 when I first started. I know some who only use this amount. However, there is no way I could use this amount today. I need at least 1-1.5g of test to make consistent gains.

And you're right, I did run into health problems. But you can't project that onto every user. Drugs affect every person differently. I have always believed that the user should only take the information here and use it as a guide. But inherently, it is up to them to experiment, using trial and error, to find out what works for them.

[Pneumatic]

I can't say I disagree. I got by with 250-500mg week of sust 250 when I first started. I know some who only use this amount. However, there is no way I could use this amount today. I need at least 1-1.5g of test to make consistent gains.

And you're right, I did run into health problems. But you can't project that onto every user. Drugs affect every person differently. I have always believed that the user should only take the information here and use it as a guide. But inherently, it is up to them to experiment, using trial and error, to find out what works for them.

I 100% unequivocably agree w/ U. Have u tried a lengthy layoff/receptor clean out time? It mite be worth trying. My whole point was that I suspect that essentally the same gains could be made by the majority of users on ALOT less gear. On the other hand I'm using injectable methandrostenolone currently and I am convinced that all the junk about C-17 Alpha's being liver destroyers is largely BS. If they're not run for more than 8wks or so and again, used in moderation.

Peace out "G" < whigga joke.
and if ull check my avatar ull see that I "like" black women just fine..along w/ latinas, asians, east indians, american indians, filipinas....etc, etc. I just have my own cultural indentity and don't feel empty inside where I need to attempt to assimilate w/ a MTV culture which is mainly marketing BS meant for weak minded idiots or fodder for Jamie Kennedy.

[Pneumatic]

Bring it G, or get one of ur whigga "bottoms" to do it for so U can be charged as an accessory and be "in da house" kickin it for few long balls...bro...

[*Narkissos*]

Again, this is just my basically and permanently NOVICE steroid knowledge.

'nuff said

[*Narkissos*]

Have u tried a lengthy layoff/receptor clean out time?

You really ARE green aren't you.

Receptor clean out.. lmao!

and if ull check my avatar

I removed your avator.. because it's against the rules.

My advice.. do soem reading.

Let that include studies on AAS.. AND threads on AR's rules

Narkissos

[SVTMuscle*]

'nuff said

ouchhh there tough guy, at least he said that so people understand where he is comming from haha


i believed the same thing when i was first learning about AAS. Back in the golden era in the 70's. dosages were probaly no where near what they are now, it has been proven, i forget where somewhere in MD magizine, but it was some figure like (trying to pull it from memory) dosages increase 50% or so every 4 years of so if i remember figures correctly. I dunno if its science, greed, knowledge, but whatever it is, dosage numbers are only gonna increase with time im sure

[*Narkissos*]

ouchhh there tough guy, at least he said that so people understand where he is comming from haha


i believed the same thing when i was first learning about AAS. Back in the golden era in the 70's. dosages were probaly no where near what they are now, it has been proven, i forget where somewhere in MD magizine, but it was some figure like (trying to pull it from memory) dosages increase 50% or so every 4 years of so if i remember figures correctly. I dunno if its science, greed, knowledge, but whatever it is, dosage numbers are only gonna increase with time im sure

Sure the injectable dosages may be higher.. the oral dosages are lower by contrast.. and more standerdised

Still to say that the majority of bodybuilders increase their dosages indiscriminately to compensate for poor training regimes is bullshit...AND it's blatant disrespect for the amount of work the moajority put in daily

Quite frankly research shows that there is a dose-dependant curve.

More gear = More muscles

Simply put.

Note that i don't advocate high doses.. neither to i cry them down.

Narkissos

[C_Bino]

You really ARE green aren't you.

Receptor clean out.. lmao!




I removed your avator.. because it's against the rules.

My advice.. do soem reading.

Let that include studies on AAS.. AND threads on AR's rules

Narkissos

Damn, how is the Tren/halo/cheque drop cycle treating you? LOL
I agree 100% though, pointless thread as it is as he said just his opinion and not based on any experience or facts and I was also LOL about the receptor clean out.

[*Narkissos*]

Damn, how is the Tren/halo/cheque drop cycle treating you? LOL
I agree 100% though, pointless thread as it is as he said just his opinion and not based on any experience or facts and I was also LOL about the receptor clean out.

My cycle starts tomorrow ironically

[love 2 lift]

My cycle starts tomorrow ironically

LOL!!!!!!

[Kale]

Sure the injectable dosages may be higher.. the oral dosages are lower by contrast.. and more standerdised

Still to say that the majority of bodybuilders increase their dosages indiscriminately to compensate for poor training regimes is bullshit...AND it's blatant disrespect for the amount of work the mojority put in daily

Quite frankly research shows that there is a dose-dependant curve.

More gear = More muscles

Simply put.

Note that i don't advocate high doses.. neither to i cry them down.

Narkissos

Interesting point Nark, do you remember a thread a couple of years ago, I think it was BDTR, where he funded a couple of bros to do a cycle where he set all the parameters. They were the same size and had the same workout routine and basically ate the same. One was on quite high doses and the other on standard doses. The guy on high doses put on quite a lot more than the normal one. Hardley a conclusve study but interesting all the same. I tried to find it but all of his threads have been deleted