PCT for Oral Tbol Only Cycle?

[Natty99]

Looking to do a lean bulk. I was thinking 50mg ED of OT for 6 weeks. Will also be runnning Milk Thistle and Hawthorn. Do I need to do PCT after? (I have Nolva already).

I'm 24 6'1.5" 195 15-18% BF. No prior Cycles. Lifting for 2.5 years.

Please help me out guys.

[Kale]

Why OT for your first cycle ? Not a good choice IMO

[Natty99]

Why OT for your first cycle ? Not a good choice IMO

Light on sides, no needles. Don't want to get too big too fast (issues with work) Just want to add an edge and some lean muscle

[Natty99]

Do I need the Nolva?????

[Anabolios]

nolva will be used in pct as tbol doesnt aromatize into estrogen i dont see why its a bad choice for a first cycle seeing as his goals arent to get big and retain water i say it looks fine although you could probably gain more naturally good luck and run nolva 40mg ed for 2 weeks and 20mg ed for last 2 weeks for pct

[cfiler]

Do I need the Nolva?????

Yes, you NEED nolva.

[Natty99]

Thanks guys!

[Testostack]

For a first cycle that's kinda weird..........Got Test?.........

[goose]

nolva will be used in pct as tbol doesnt aromatize into estrogen i dont see why its a bad choice for a first cycle seeing as his goals arent to get big and retain water i say it looks fine although you could probably gain more naturally good luck and run nolva 40mg ed for 2 weeks and 20mg ed for last 2 weeks for pct

This is wrong....All you need is nolva at 20mg for 4 weeks........Good luck.

[Ludo]

why don't use clomid at 50 mg ed for 20 days ?

[judge_dread]

At least stack your OT with an other androgen if not Test bro...u need to have an androgen there for several reasons
And yes u need Nolva for PCT, fix the dosage protocol

[goose]

why don't use clomid at 50 mg ed for 20 days ?

With a Tbol only cycle your natty is only suppressed,this leads to a swift PCT.Nolva has less sides than clomid and is more effective,it`s weak just like androl in the sence you need a high dose MG to MG.

[Natty99]

Nolva 20mg for 4 weeks it is. Thanks. And to evrybody else, I'm not looking to put on a ton of muscle, hence no Test. In my line of work I cant have people raising eybrows if you know what I mean.

[vitor]

Dont set a time-limit on PCT. Run PCT until you are sure that you have recovered.

[Anabolios]

With a Tbol only cycle your natty is only suppressed,this leads to a swift PCT.Nolva has less sides than clomid and is more effective,it`s weak just like androl in the sence you need a high dose MG to MG.

this could be anadrol or andriol...im assuming its andriol

[goose]

this could be anadrol or andriol...im assuming its andriol

Thanks for the correction,yes I meant anadrol...people think it`s strong when it`s very weak....Winny at 50mg will blow anadrol at 50mg away.

[Swifto]

Some Nolva for 4 weeks, or until your sex drive is back. Bloodword would be a wise idea too. I'd also throw in some Tribulas and/or Tongkat Ali. Also Proviron at 50mg/ED will mask any decrease in sex drive.

[Seattle Junk]

Nolva 20mg for 4 weeks it is. Thanks. And to evrybody else, I'm not looking to put on a ton of muscle, hence no Test. In my line of work I cant have people raising eybrows if you know what I mean.

I wish I had your problem.

[Swifto]

I wish I had your problem.

I have a friend, who I sometimes talk to at the gym. Kind of friend, of a friend. He's a policeman and his nicknames "Roid". He's a big bloke and I think he'll be competting at an amatuer levels this, or next year.

[goose]

I have a friend, who I sometimes talk to at the gym. Kind of friend, of a friend. He's a policeman and his nicknames "Roid". He's a big bloke and I think he'll be competting at an amatuer levels this, or next year.

I hate the old BILL

[Swifto]

I hate the old BILL

So do I. Cant stand them. For various reasons. A policeman with a nickname of "Roid".

[stitch1967]

Nolva 20mg for 4 weeks it is.

Is that 4 wks after the last day of cycle, the last 4 wks of cycle, or the last 2 weeks of the cycle and 2 wks after?

[Swifto]

Is that 4 wks after the last day of cycle, the last 4 wks of cycle, or the last 2 weeks of the cycle and 2 wks after?

After the androgen being used is no longer active in the body.

[stitch1967]

thanks for the clarification, swifto....just curious

[Natty99]

Nice avy stitch. That bar looks like it's definately going to break! Gonna be a bad scene