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    Questions during week 4 of cycle???

    Just starting week 4 of a Test E 500 mg/per week cycle... with 10 mg Nolvadex every day during cycle. And, of course, finish it up with PCT. I'm planning on doing at least 10 weeks total... but maybe 12 at the most.

    From everything I read on this site, it says that Test E takes about 4-5 weeks to really kick in. So far... I've gained about 6-7 lbs already in the first 3 weeks.

    Ok... so here are my questions:
    1. I read so much about having crazy sex drive as side effect. I haven't really noticed that... actually I feel a bit less horny. Is it because the Test E hasn't kicked in yet ... or can Test E also affect your sex drive in a negative way. If in a negative way... then, what would I take to ensure my sex life stays normal during the cycle.

    2. At week 4, is there anything I can add to the cycle at this point which will compliment the current 500 mgs Test E per week? (I don't want to do Deca because of all the negative stuff i've read about deca d!ck... sorry, but i like the p*ssy too much to have a mr. limpie for 10-12 weeks).

    3. Is it worth adding something for cutting at the end of the cycle?

    Unless, any of the vets have good advice for anything to add to the cycle... I will just stay on course with this beginner cycle.

    My stats:
    + Early 30's
    + Last cycle about 10 years ago
    + 5'10"... 197 lbs.
    + Working out for over 15 years
    + Body Fat... don't know... but i'm in shape

    Goals - Solid muscle, about 210 lbs., but want to avoid getting too puffy/water weight. Toward end of cycle I would like to cut up as much as possible. Strength gains are ok...but i'm really looking more toward increasing my visual presence.

    Any constructive advice is appreciated.

    Best,

    LC

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    Arimidex is my favorite for keeping the water off, but see which AI is best for you. As far as cutting at the end of the cycle, Winstrol @ 50mg/day for the last 4-6 weeks would help along with increased cardio.

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    IMO it is never a good idea to add anything mid cycle, and as far as a loss of libido, there are many ways to help that. I picked up some Cia from ARR, but they also have liquid V (viagra). Only problem with the V is that you have to expect getting some, whereas the cialis works for a good 36 hours.

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    I read somewhere on here that Proviron helps with keeping the libido at a normal level. Any thoughts? I was surfing my favorite p*rn site today and my equipment was not it's usual happy self... I was like "WTF!" I'm on Test !@#$% it's supposed to be just the opposite.

    Yeah... I didn't see anywhere on here about adding another AAS during mid-cycle... but thought to ask. Once you start seeing results... of course it's motivating to think "what else?"..

    Winny sounds good to cut at the end. I'll probably wait and see how my appearance is at that point in the cycle to decide.

    Any other recommendations?

    Thx.

    LC

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    The weight you have gained is most likely water. Sounds like maybe your natural testosterone is shutting down now that the synthetic Test is starting to kick in, sex drive should increase. I wouldn't add anything, your diet should already be solid for your goals. If you choose to cut at the end then adjust diet and cardio to suite.

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    Normally alot of people get an increased sex drive when they take test, am sure yours isnt kicking totaly yet so give it couple of more weeks,

    Id stick to the planned cycle and just eat and train and let the test e do its job,

    You could add proviron but id save that for pct when the sex drive is down, excellent product for pct.

    good luck

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    Thanks a lot for the advice. Very helpful. I will just stick with the original program of just Test E 500 mgs/per week and adjust my diet/cardio at the end.

    Sorry - but one other question. Should I be taking the 500 mgs/ every 5 days or every 7 days? I read on the site that the half life for Test E is really about 5 days. I started off taking 2cc's (total of 500mg) just 1 day a week... every 7 days. (BTW - I prefer just taking 1 shot a week, don't want to break it up into 2 sessions.)

    What is your opinion about taking 500 mgs every 5 days vs. every 7 days? I plan to run the cycle 10 weeks minimum (12 weeks maximum).

    I think after that... I don't really have many other questions. Sorry to ask so much... but I want to get the most from the cycle I can without making any big newbie mistakes.

    Thx,

    LC

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    500mgs every 7 days is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LocoCabron
    Thanks a lot for the advice. Very helpful. I will just stick with the original program of just Test E 500 mgs/per week and adjust my diet/cardio at the end.

    Sorry - but one other question. Should I be taking the 500 mgs/ every 5 days or every 7 days? I read on the site that the half life for Test E is really about 5 days. I started off taking 2cc's (total of 500mg) just 1 day a week... every 7 days. (BTW - I prefer just taking 1 shot a week, don't want to break it up into 2 sessions.)

    What is your opinion about taking 500 mgs every 5 days vs. every 7 days? I plan to run the cycle 10 weeks minimum (12 weeks maximum).

    I think after that... I don't really have many other questions. Sorry to ask so much... but I want to get the most from the cycle I can without making any big newbie mistakes.

    Thx,

    LC
    First of all bro Tongkat Ali will help with your Libido issues, and that can be picked up at GNC as Redkat, or at health store. On the other hand you should be running the Test @ 500 mg every 7 days and shoot 250 mg every 3 1/2 days, like Monday morning and Thursday evening. That is the absolute best way to keep your blood levels consistent and see the most gains IMHO. It doesn't matter IMO if you don;t want to shoot 2x a week, it should be your concern to make sure everything is done correctly and most efficiently. Also, I agree with the others as far as proviron for pct, you can also incorporate Redkat as well with pct.

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    proviron works great during cycle for libido and also for keeping water bloat down, at least for me it does. i've heard AI's can mess up with your sex drive but i don't know by experience 'cause i haven't used them. maybe for pct you can use some clen, it will help you retain muscle and cut you down a lil bit. oh and proviron is an androgen so it will help you get a harder look. i hope this helps.

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    All good advice. Good luck. My sex drive was always pretty high, but my Cyp didnt seem to effect it until week 6-7. Hang in there and good luck.

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    i wouldn't use proviron for pct though i'm a proviron lover. it's still an steroid, i wouldn't use it for that purpose just to be on the safe side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
    All good advice. Good luck. My sex drive was always pretty high, but my Cyp didnt seem to effect it until week 6-7. Hang in there and good luck.

    Same here.

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    Cdup - you mentioned doing 250mg Monday ... 250 mg Thursday. Are you saying that's better for my next cycle... or to actually change what i'm doing now? How would it affect me to go from doing 500 mg 1x a week... to 250mg 2x a week?

    Everyone.... thanks for the input. Very helpful.

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    Holy Crap, Change immediately to bi-weekly injections! Your levels may be fluctuating, which may be causing the libido issues you are concerned about.

    Changing to bi-weekly won't negatively affect you at all. It'll just be like a 250 mg frontload. No big deal.

    If you already took a 500mg injection on monday, shoot 250 Thursday night, 250 next Monday morning, etc...
    Last edited by MAXIMA5; 05-09-2006 at 10:17 AM.

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    Wow.... and I thought I was doing this right with 500mg injection just 1 time a week. I realllllllly tried to research this site up and down before starting and I didn't see much specific saying to take 250mg 1x and then later in the week 250mg for the other ===== to total 500mg.

    After reading some info on here about the half-life of Test E being 5 days... I was recently thinking just to hit the 500 mg (in 1 injection) every 5 days. Is that too much? Would my levels still be fluctuating?

    Maxima5 - thanks for all the responses BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LocoCabron
    Wow.... and I thought I was doing this right with 500mg injection just 1 time a week. I realllllllly tried to research this site up and down before starting and I didn't see much specific saying to take 250mg 1x and then later in the week 250mg for the other ===== to total 500mg.

    After reading some info on here about the half-life of Test E being 5 days... I was recently thinking just to hit the 500 mg (in 1 injection) every 5 days. Is that too much? Would my levels still be fluctuating?

    Maxima5 - thanks for all the responses BTW.

    Long esters must be injected at a minimum of twice weekly. Why would you let your test levels soar, then wait until they plummet again to inject again. This causes a roller coaster effect, which leads to more sides and poor results.

    For example, My test comes in 250mg amps, and I'm running 750 mg EW. I shoot 250 on Monday morning, 250 on Wednesday, and another 250 Friday afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
    Long esters must be injected at a minimum of twice weekly. Why would you let your test levels soar, then wait until they plummet again to inject again. This causes a roller coaster effect, which leads to more sides and poor results.

    For example, My test comes in 250mg amps, and I'm running 750 mg EW. I shoot 250 on Monday morning, 250 on Wednesday, and another 250 Friday afternoon.
    Twice a week for long esters is optimal, I agree, but you can shoot it once a week and have great gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
    Long esters must be injected at a minimum of twice weekly. Why would you let your test levels soar, then wait until they plummet again to inject again. This causes a roller coaster effect, which leads to more sides and poor results.

    For example, My test comes in 250mg amps, and I'm running 750 mg EW. I shoot 250 on Monday morning, 250 on Wednesday, and another 250 Friday afternoon.
    Although it is possible to inject once weekly with his cycle, I do agree 100% that's it's better to evenly space out the injects to keep the test levels even. It drastically reduces sides from have somuch excess test to crashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Twice a week for long esters is optimal, I agree, but you can shoot it once a week and have great gains.
    Agreed 100%. Also Enanthate has a half life of 10-14 days if i'm not mistaken, so once a week could work great. But like I had said before, IMO it is the best way to go 2x a wk. Good luck bro

    Cdup

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    Thanks for all the tips. I'm going to start spacing the injections 250mg/Monday and 250mg/Thursday as most of you mentioned.

    I'll check back with my progress over the next weeks. Best of luck.

    LC

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    Good luck.

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