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    how long is too long to run a cycle?

    how long is too long to run a cycle?.. over 10 weeks?

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    common cycle between 10-14 wks

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    depends on what type of gear.

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    14 weeks is def not LONG.. many people may not go over 14 but there are 20 30 40 weekers and just year around.. im sure there are many guys on this board who ran over 14 weekers... and 10 is DEF not long..

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    my gains start to slow after 6 weeks so that's where I stop. unless you plan to stay on you should stop where your gains start to slow. imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    my gains start to slow after 6 weeks so that's where I stop. unless you plan to stay on you should stop where your gains start to slow. imho
    Your stopping of gains was NOT from the AAS.. it probably was your lack of correct diet.. when you get bigger you need more calories to get even bigger.. your telling me when you run test e you stop seeing gains at week 6!?!? PLEASE!

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    cycle was.... 2 cc's of EQ on monday ran winny pills 50 mg every day

    after both were done i ran another bottle of EQ and started Sustanon 250 but 2 ccs of each twice a week

    so all together
    winny pills 50 mg, 30 pills
    EQ 200 , 10 shot
    EQ 200 , 10 shot
    Sustanon 250 10 shot

    Can i run more winny pills and clen or am i going over board

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    Your stopping of gains was NOT from the AAS.. it probably was your lack of correct diet.. when you get bigger you need more calories to get even bigger.. your telling me when you run test e you stop seeing gains at week 6!?!? PLEASE!
    why do you assume test e. Also, I didnt say stop, I said slow, as in slow down. here is what I typically run:
    test e and deconate 900mg total
    tren ace 540mg
    nandrolone deconate 300mg

    If you continue to run after your gains start to slow then you just end up loosing more of those gains during off time. assuming you do the time off = time on. on long cycles I found that I was allways starting at square one after taking proper off time. short cycles I come back almost were I leave off. why do more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    why do you assume test e. Also, I didnt say stop, I said slow, as in slow down. here is what I typically run:
    test e and deconate 900mg total
    tren ace 540mg
    nandrolone deconate 300mg

    If you continue to run after your gains start to slow then you just end up loosing more of those gains during off time. assuming you do the time off = time on. on long cycles I found that I was allways starting at square one after taking proper off time. short cycles I come back almost were I leave off. why do more?
    Why assume test e? And then your next comment is Test e and deconate @ 900mg total...??? so after week six gains stopr or slow down?? give me a break.. stop spreading this false info..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    Why assume test e? And then your next comment is Test e and deconate @ 900mg total...??? so after week six gains stopr or slow down?? give me a break.. stop spreading this false info..

    Get Em Liftnainez..!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    Why assume test e? And then your next comment is Test e and deconate @ 900mg total...??? so after week six gains stopr or slow down?? give me a break.. stop spreading this false info..
    you assumed test e w/o me stating that I took test e. I didn't state that I took it untill after your post. still havnt said stop. Im not saying stop, but slow down. Try readiing what I write. I can see your going to need an example.
    I may gain 50 lbs on my bench in 6 weeks, 65 in 10 weeks. after 10 weeks off I loose almost all of that 65 lbs. so I'm really only renting it. after 6 weeks off I come back w/ 35 to 40 lbs of my last gain. short cycles are the only way to go, imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    you assumed test e w/o me stating that I took test e. I didn't state that I took it untill after your post. still havnt said stop. Im not saying stop, but slow down. Try readiing what I write. I can see your going to need an example.
    I may gain 50 lbs on my bench in 6 weeks, 65 in 10 weeks. after 10 weeks off I loose almost all of that 65 lbs. so I'm really only renting it. after 6 weeks off I come back w/ 35 to 40 lbs of my last gain. short cycles are the only way to go, imho

    Whatever you say buddy.. to bad that test e is not really supposed to be used in short cycles (test prop would be more appropriate) and that most real gains come towards the 6th week but you know better.. lol..
    Last edited by Booz; 05-11-2006 at 05:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAN12B
    Get Em Liftnainez..!!!
    you know it bro

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    [QUOTE=Liftnainez][/B]
    Whatever you say buddy.. to bad that test e is not really supposed to be used in short cycles (test prop would be more appropriate) and that most real gains come towards the 6th week but you know better.. lol.. QUOTE]

    grow up w/ your monkies pissin. what works for me works for many others on this board. try using your search button
    Last edited by Booz; 05-11-2006 at 05:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    grow up w/ your monkies pissin. what works for me works for many others on this board. try using your search button
    HAHAHA go to sleep!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    HAHAHA go to sleep!!
    LOLOLOLOL thanks for my laugh of the day!!!

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    I knew you were too lazy to use a search button so I did it for you.
    4 weeks on ,4 off cycles

    q. are all these people liars too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAN12B
    LOLOLOLOL thanks for my laugh of the day!!!
    curious, what exactly did you find funny about this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAN12B
    LOLOLOLOL thanks for my laugh of the day!!!
    haha not a prob.. im sure there will be more..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    curious, what exactly did you find funny about this?
    end your whining.. I dont care what you saY!!! test e doesnt not slow down at week 6!!!! you are WRONG!!!!!!!!!! if you wanted to run a 6 weeker prop would be the optimal choice..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    end your whining.. I dont care what you saY!!! test e doesnt not slow down at week 6!!!! you are WRONG!!!!!!!!!! if you wanted to run a 6 weeker prop would be the optimal choice..
    I notice you didnt mention the thread. again I ask, are all these people wrong?
    here it is for you again:
    4 weeks on ,4 off cycles

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    wow you really are a moron.. the thread you posted proved my point!!!!!!! not urs.. the FEW people who recommended the short cycles said to use test PROP!!!!! and most people saying the real benefits are passed week 6!! i am not agaisnt short cycles but do NOT tell me test E is used for 4-6 weeks.. stop now bc you look like a fool..

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    quote from cfiler from the THREAD YOU posted

    "Test for nine weeks? You only had test active for 4-5 weeks. Your best bet would be to stick with a plain test cycle for 10-12 weeks."

    lol you crack me up mkrulik

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    cut outthe bullshit and the flaming boys...........this is meant to be a discussion board...........you are tottaly killing this thread..............
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    curious, what exactly did you find funny about this?
    I find it funny that you are closed minded.

    I read your thread. and the general consesus is that allthough you can do shorter 4-6 week cycles, you have to make sure you are using the right compounds, and Test E is NOT one of them so get over yourself already!!!

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    another quote from what you POSTED that proves MY point:

    "I have done many short cycles as little boster before event shortest ran was 5 weeks though and was test prop tren ace and winny all at high does well to me they were high.
    1-5 winny 50-100-50 ect
    1-5 test 150ed
    1-5 tren 150ed
    got rock soild also got sides mostly from the tren

    so run test sup and tren ace both at 50-100mg ed for 4-6 weeks it will work but you are not going to get huge size gains as this mostly for cutting imp"

    Where does anybody use TEST E???????? Back up your false claims.. your the one who she be using the search function bud..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Booz
    cut outthe bullshit and the flaming boys...........this is meant to be a discussion board...........you are tottaly killing this thread..............
    Im done.. Proved my point that Test E is not used in 4-6 week cycles.. I am finished..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    wow you really are a moron.. the thread you posted proved my point!!!!!!! not urs.. the FEW people who recommended the short cycles said to use test PROP!!!!! and most people saying the real benefits are passed week 6!! i am not agaisnt short cycles but do NOT tell me test E is used for 4-6 weeks.. stop now bc you look like a fool..
    the test was for keeping my sex drive in check. the gains came from the tren ace, a short ester. your focusing on one small part of the cycle. and I choose long ester test cause I want it to last after the cycle is over. name calling is immature. w/ that being said I bet both you bitches wont respond to this
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMAN12B
    And he wonders why I am laughing..
    HAHA i know bro i know.. but you know how some people are.. close minded and obstinate.. his loss..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    the test was for keeping my sex drive in check. the gains came from the tren ace, a short ester. your focusing on one small part of the cycle. and I choose long ester test cause I want it to last after the cycle is over. name calling is immature.
    Please somebody take over for me and inform this guy on EVERYTHING!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    Please somebody take over for me and inform this guy on EVERYTHING!!!!
    yea that's what I thought bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    yea that's what I thought bitch
    I thought name calling was immature.. and you just made a fool out of yourself... I said somebody take over bc your to dumb to deal with.. wow you are one of the special ones on this site..

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    the funniest part of this whole thing is that you got worked up over the enathate ester when I'm running deconate (A LONGER ESTER) on two different hormones. fvckin monkies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftnainez
    I thought name calling was immature.. and you just made a fool out of yourself... I said somebody take over bc your to dumb to deal with.. wow you are one of the special ones on this site..
    read the post. you have a real hard time w/ that dont you?
    "name calling is immature. w/ that being said I bet both you bitches wont respond to this"

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    I think Booz is going to kick both your asses if this childish crap continues. Take your bitching to PM's !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    I think Booz is going to kick both your asses if this childish crap continues. Take your bitching to PM's !!!!
    they both just did a search and realized that deconate has a longer half-life than enanthate . they are cowreing in their ignorance

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    okay fellas how is this helping me out??

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicepig
    okay fellas how is this helping me out??
    Exactly !!!! To answer your question, it would vary a lot between individuals and I dont think there is any specific time limit. Pretty much experiment and see what works for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    my gains start to slow after 6 weeks so that's where I stop. unless you plan to stay on you should stop where your gains start to slow. imho
    I have to agree with MKRULIC. I gain really well up until 5-6 weeks (using test e and deca ), then I hardly gain at all. I'm done with the 10-12 week cycles and I'm sticking with 6 weeks from now on. And I know it's not my diet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Exactly !!!! To answer your question, it would vary a lot between individuals and I dont think there is any specific time limit. Pretty much experiment and see what works for you
    Ditto.

    Typically, people choose to cut cycles short for 2 reasons. 1 being that gains will eventually slow, EVEN WITH A GREAT DIET. 2, it's harder to come back after relatively long cycles. (16+ weeks) It also has a lot to do with the compounds in the cycle.

    Some will find their gains early on in the cycle, others break out in the last leg. I'm the type that breaks out late, where I'll see the best gains after 8 weeks when running long estered compounds.

    Find what works for you.

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