Test Prop cycle...

**mcgas7** · 05-12-2006, 01:02 PM

My bro wants to hit a short bulking cycle before summer..
6 weeks??

age 21
weight 200 pounds
6'0 feet tall..
first cycle..

he was thinking of test prop..

im just throwing the questions for him as he aint got net access..

cheers..

**Max10** · 05-12-2006, 01:45 PM

Prop is perfect for a short cycle...but its his first and he's going to be shooting ED or EOD...sort of rough for a first cycle...keep things simple have him shoot 100mgs to 150mgs every other day for the 6 weeks...I would personally go at least 8 weeks though..

**mcgas7** · 05-12-2006, 01:55 PM

he wants to shoot every 3 days if possible???

come on guys? any thoughts???

**hosam4ever** · 05-12-2006, 01:59 PM

if he want somthing 2 be injected every 3 days then test prop is not the best choice may be sustanon or test e but i prefere single ester for the 1st cycle

**taiotosh7** · 05-12-2006, 02:05 PM

since it's his first cycle then prop would be perfect. IMO even better than test e for a first cuz prop is active so fast that he will be able to feel out how his body does with the test much faster and go on from there.

**mcgas7** · 05-12-2006, 02:08 PM

wat dose and split would be adviced..

thanks for input taiotosh,hosam4ever,max10..

**hosam4ever** · 05-12-2006, 02:14 PM

prop should be taken ed or eod @ 50 or 75 mg

**taiotosh7** · 05-12-2006, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by mcgas7

wat dose and split would be adviced..

thanks for input taiotosh,hosam4ever,max10..

I would run 100mg eod, that will give him 300-400mgs per week

Monday, Wednesday, Firday, Sunday = 400mg wk

Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday = 300mgs wk

**mcgas7** · 05-12-2006, 02:37 PM

how would pct on 300mg per week for the 6 weeks look?

**mcgas7** · 05-12-2006, 02:49 PM

going higher!

**taiotosh7** · 05-12-2006, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by mcgas7

how would pct on 300mg per week for the 6 weeks look?

Nolvadex ran at 20-40mg every day for 3-4 wks....20 should be good enough

**mcgas7** · 05-12-2006, 03:28 PM

nolv only?? wat about clomid?? would that be necessary?

**taiotosh7** · 05-12-2006, 03:33 PM

I get bad sides from clomid and so do others. I get psychological side effects that just make me very edgy, irritable, cranky, I hate it! Also gave me bacne.....I believe the reason is dosage. You have to start out with over 100mgs on clomid where as nolva is ran no more than 40mgs for pct.

**mcgas7** · 05-12-2006, 04:42 PM

cheers tai

**mcgas7** · 05-13-2006, 05:11 AM

any other views?

**marcus300** · 05-13-2006, 05:36 AM

20yrs old is to young, how long as he been training?

**mcgas7** · 05-13-2006, 01:28 PM

5 years marcus

**SMAN12b** · 05-13-2006, 09:13 PM

Why do you want to do PROP instead of Test E or Cyp?

**WonderMikeJ** · 05-13-2006, 10:59 PM

prop is good stuff, but a 20 year old needs to wait in my opinion.. but i agree with others that sustanon might be a better choice... prop is meant for a beginning cycle to get affects going while waiting for something like enanthate or cyp to gain efficacy.. it should not be taken in the long term. Sus has great benefits from every angle.. it's up to you.. i like prop myself but i'm experienced.. Clomid has given a lot of people I know bad side effects, but letro, nolva, and tamox work great with little problems.

**scriptfactory** · 05-14-2006, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by WonderMikeJ

prop is good stuff, but a 20 year old needs to wait in my opinion.. but i agree with others that sustanon might be a better choice... prop is meant for a beginning cycle to get affects going while waiting for something like enanthate or cyp to gain efficacy.. it should not be taken in the long term. Sus has great benefits from every angle.. it's up to you.. i like prop myself but i'm experienced.. Clomid has given a lot of people I know bad side effects, but letro, nolva, and tamox work great with little problems.

Say what?! Who taught you that little tidbit of info. Just to let you know, it's not true.

**Kale** · 05-14-2006, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by WonderMikeJ

prop is good stuff, but a 20 year old needs to wait in my opinion.. but i agree with others that sustanon might be a better choice... prop is meant for a beginning cycle to get affects going while waiting for something like enanthate or cyp to gain efficacy.. it should not be taken in the long term. Sus has great benefits from every angle.. it's up to you.. i like prop myself but i'm experienced.. Clomid has given a lot of people I know bad side effects, but letro, nolva, and tamox work great with little problems.

Complete crap, you have no idea what you are taking about !!!!

**tank198124** · 05-14-2006, 03:20 AM

if he only wants a short bulk up of about 6 weeks as its his first course why not think about an oral like d-bol for 6 weeks followed but two weeks of pct clomoid works good for me but each to there own

**mcgas7** · 05-14-2006, 04:27 AM

wat dose of dbol ??

a lot of people advice against oral only cycles, especially dbol??

**tank198124** · 05-14-2006, 08:19 AM

my first course was d-bol for 6 weeks at 40mg ed i had great gains with no sides but not everybody responds the same as long as u have some novodex handy i cant see there been any major probs but its worth looking into more

**mcgas7** · 05-14-2006, 08:23 AM

how was your pct set up for a cycle like that?

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-14-2006, 10:55 AM

if he isnt going to take a shot every day or every other day, than prop isnt for him. enth and cyp will not work fast enough in a 6 wk cycle because of the long esthers, as soon as the cyp or enth would kick in , he would be ready to start pct. prop is ideal for a short cycle, but it has to be taken properly or you will not get the full results

**tank198124** · 05-14-2006, 11:26 AM

i didnt do any pct it was my first course and got very bad advice at the time but still kept a lot of my gains but now id take 300mg clomoid two days after last tabs then 100mg ed for two weeks but im not 100% on that so id read in to it a bit or ask one of the other who's more clued up on pct than me

**PaulieM.** · 05-14-2006, 02:02 PM

test prop. 100mg eod and 30mg d-bol ed for 6 weeks or 100mg prop and 75mg tren eod for 6 weeks. keep nolva on hand and maybe get some hcg for pct.

**IFIWAS** · 05-14-2006, 08:07 PM

Just me but I hate the ups and downs Sus causes in blood levels, I would never recomend it personally.

I say for nice lean gains and a short cycle.... Prop 100mg EOD for 6 weeks (M-W-F-Sun), Tren Ace 100mg EOD for 4 weeks (T-TH-Sat)

This is if you only want to run 6 weeks total....personall I would take the Test atleast 8 weeks and the Tren 6 weeks....you will want to run the Test atleast 2 weeks past the Tren to keep the ole pecker happy.

Keep Nolva on hand, and I would run for PCT HCG 500iu EOD for 2 weeks, along with some Clomid and Nolva.