Next cycle starts monday.

**guest589745** · 05-12-2006, 06:14 PM

I'm pretty anxious, gotta go grocery shopping and order more protein though.

Goal: To keep at least 20 lbs and not gain much fat

Weeks 1-4(6): Dbol 25mg (Possibly 50mg) ED
Weeks 1-12: Test cyp 600mg week, Nolva 10mg ED

PCT: Day 1: 100mg clomid
Day 1-30: 20mg Nolva ED, 50mg clomid ED (Ldex on hand).

24
6ft
228lbs
18%BF

Liftin split:

Monday-Upper body
Tuesday-30-45min cardio, low intensity
Wednesday-Lower body
Thursday-30-45min cardio, low intensity
Friday-Upper body
Saturday-Off
Sunday-Off
repeat, starting with next WO

Each exercise 15,10,5 reps, rotating every 2 weeks
Each BP 1-2 exercises per WO, 2-3 sets per exercise

Any recommendations?

**Liftnainez** · 05-12-2006, 06:22 PM

yea.. eat alot of raisins.. haha jk bro.. cycle looks good and organized well.. make sure to watch your diet and keep up your cardio.. you could also try to loose a bit more BF before you started.. but overall looks like a solid cycle.. btw some people are incorporating proviron in there cycles and really like it..

**guest589745** · 05-12-2006, 06:26 PM

Yea, if I knew a little more about proviron , I would have used it maybe but, I know very little about it. I have heard a few others used it though.

I also want to keep my BP down as much as possible. I have hawthorn berry, cranberry for my kidneys and milk thistle for my liver. If need be, I might get BP meds but, I am probably being overly cautious about it. My BP is like 138/70-156/80 at the most. Still high but Im gonna keep an eye on it.

***BajanBastard*** · 05-12-2006, 06:30 PM

Does nolva help you with water retention? I would use the A.I on cycle seeing you want to control BP.

**Liftnainez** · 05-12-2006, 06:33 PM

you can use A-dex throughout instead of the nolva... and incase of gyno symptons arise then you can use nolva

**guest589745** · 05-12-2006, 06:35 PM

I was thinking of that, I didnt notice if I was retaining more water with nolva as opposed to ldex but, I know how it works thats why i use it. Good point, I think I will change that actually.

What kind of "rebound" effect will this possibly have, using ldex then switching to nolva PCT? I have heard of adex/ldex causing a rebound effect. I suppose PCT I can use the nolva to help with any rebound effect but, since nolva doesnt actuallly remove the estrogen, I am concerned.

**guest589745** · 05-12-2006, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

you can use A-dex throughout instead of the nolva... and incase of gyno symptons arise then you can use nolva

Is it true that nolva/ldex combo is a conflicting idea?

**Liftnainez** · 05-12-2006, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Is it true that nolva/ldex combo is a conflicting idea?

yes it is.. i will try to find the thread and post it.. both cancel eachother out to a certain degree.. adex by itself will suffice.. and for pct you can use nolva and proviron if you would like.. or nolva and clomid ( i have been reading that clomid is not a must and that nolva will be ok)