1000 or 2000mg test?

[europeman]

some people tell me you dont notice any differnce between 1 or 2 grams of test, others tell me it is al world of difference, also will the bloating be much more than with 1 gram?

and what about sust or test E? I will inject twice a week


week 1-8 1000/2000 Test E or sust
week 1-8 1000mg Tren E

week 1-4 200mg anadrol or 100/50 mg winny ject ED
week 5-10 100mg anavar
week 7-10 50mg halotestin

week 1-12 100 mg proviron ed
week 2-9 25 mcg T3 ed

[vitor]

Some people have many more open recepters than others, "steroid responders", you can call it. Obviously, they can take in alot more drugs without saturate the recepters. But there will come to a point when taking in more drugs will cause no futher growth, depends on the induvidual, what that limit is.

Ofcourse 2 g will bloat more than 1 g.

[fred9]

with that amount of tren i should do 2000mg test...
not a little to much orals? 10 weeks straight...

[mcgas7]

stats?
cycle history?

[marcus300]

Stats and cycle history please.

[Geriguy]

I will inject twice a week

How do you want to inject such a big ammount of oil just twice a weak???

[hosam4ever]

stats & cycle history iam sure u have many cycles under ur belt but we need to know ur past cycle
the difference betw 1 g & 2 g of test may be only more sides

[Ufa]

If you were born in 1985 you are only 21. This seems extremely heavy for a first or second cycle. Building your body should be looked at in terms of years not weeks. Good luck.

[europeman]

stats 115kilo, 183cm bf 13% have used gh, igf test e @ 1000mg's tren 700 mg's/week anadrol 200mg's/day

[sbeast007]

they are high doses how many cycles have u done?

[BajanBastard]

I've been researching this alot and what really strange is that users who use 1g of test per week don't see any significant difference between 1g too 1.2-1.5g then some claim when they bump it to 2g it's a whole different ballgame. Sounds fishy to me.

[SPIKE]

Dam bro 10 weeks or orals? Not to mention Halo and Drol...........

Have you ever ran Halo? How was the Drol at 200mgs ED?

[Warrior]

Holy shit... my prostate just grew from reading that. Good luck dude... I can't comment on that much gear use... seems insane to me.

[vitor]

Between week 5-10, I would atleast switch the var with oral-Primo(200-300mgs ed), to give your liver a breake...

[Cdup]

Holy shit... my prostate just grew from reading that. Good luck dude... I can't comment on that much gear use... seems insane to me.

Yuuuuup

[europeman]

Between week 5-10, I would atleast switch the var with oral-Primo(200-300mgs ed), to give your liver a breake...

var isnt that harsh on the liver

[Bigstiffler]

wow i'm affraid to try tren & anadrol & ur running high ass dosages! good luck bro! gotta c current pics then after pics!

[Pinnacle]

var isnt that harsh on the liver

Yeah but bro you are running orals for along time/duration.I guess I'm not one to speak though as I've ran anadrol for 10 week at 200 mgs Ed a few times.
I'd drop the var and give you liver a week break(between the drol and halo) then resume with the halo.I'm about to do very similar shortly as well.Doses are about the same too,except I'm running 4.5 g of Test..and yes you do see a BIg difference at higher doses.Not that 4.5 g wkly is all that high(to me anyway)

Good luck man


~Pinnacle~

[vitor]

Yeah but bro you are running orals for along time/duration.I guess I'm not one to speak though as I've ran anadrol for 10 week at 200 mgs Ed a few times.
I'd drop the var and give you liver a week break(between the drol and halo) then resume with the halo.I'm about to do very similar shortly as well.Doses are about the same too,except I'm running 4.5 g of Test..and yes you do see a BIg difference at higher doses.Not that 4.5 g wkly is all that high(to me anyway)

Good luck man


~Pinnacle~

4500mgs test+the other stuff. How are you able to get all that juice in?

You most inject every bodypart?

I developed some nice scar-tissue here and there , when I had 3900mgs of total juice in my last run...

[Pinnacle]

4500mgs test+the other stuff. How are you able to get all that juice in?

You most inject every bodypart?

...

I'm only running Test/drol..plus very high dose HGH ...huIGF-1 as well.So injections aren't really an issue.I always inject enanthate ED anyway,so 3 cc's ED isn't really much/bad at all.


~Pinnacle~

[BG]

God I love reading those numbers.3500,4500 nice.

[Pinum]

Guy's...curious how does your blood work come up? I've been reading allot on these big cycles but haven't seen anybody posting there post blood work results. How is your post cycle recovery time?

[Testostack]

Holy shit... my prostate just grew from reading that. Good luck dude... I can't comment on that much gear use... seems insane to me.

INSANE is the word. Nuff said....

[*Alex*]

INSANE is the word. Nuff said....

someone doesnt give a flying fvck about their liver.........and its not me.

[Swifto]

Guy's...curious how does your blood work come up? I've been reading allot on these big cycles but haven't seen anybody posting there post blood work results. How is your post cycle recovery time?

Most dont come off.

[Testostack]

someone doesnt give a flying fvck about their liver.........and its not me.

it's supposed to regenarate itself....but if i can ease that up, why not?

[PaulieM.]

my friend said when he hit the 2 gram mark is when he really started growing. he took t-400, cyp. and enan. he said he just made sure he hit 2 grams a week(on top of other juice/slin). i'd like to try it, but i think i fell in love with prop. so i might try 200mg prop ed for next short bulker.

[Dreaming2B-BIG]

What kind of ancillaries do you gotta use to run test so high?

[Pinnacle]

What kind of ancillaries do you gotta use to run test so high?

Who said you had too bro?Personally I never use any type antis(and I run HIGH dose cycles all the time) til I'm about to reduce my dose going into cruise mode(250 mgs).Iget BW done Bi weekly and hardly ever have an alarming results to speak of...this board is all about safety,but many ppl play it far to safe and wind up getting less than adequate results.But it all boils down to what you want to achieve ,and how badly you want it too.


~Pinnacle~

[Booz]

Who said you had too bro?Personally I never use any type antis(and I run HIGH dose cycles all the time) til I'm about to reduce my dose going into cruise mode(250 mgs).Iget BW done Bi weekly and hardly ever have an alarming results to speak of...this board is all about safety,but many ppl play it far to safe and wind up getting less than adequate results.But it all boils down to what you want to achieve ,and how badly you want it too.


~Pinnacle~

well said Pinn.................
i have never used an AI or serm thru a cycle yet either......................

[SVTMuscle*]

Do you plan on competing for anything?

[Pinnacle]

Do you plan on competing for anything?

I do compete,and I'm in preparation for a contest right now.


~Pinnacle~

[SVTMuscle*]

I do compete,and I'm in preparation for a contest right now.


~Pinnacle~

if your using high doses like that and compete yes it makes sense...but to use high dosages like that, just to do it... seems a little obscene

[guns626]

So let me get this straight, at those doses you do not run any ancillaries while on? You have got to have huge amounts of estrogen from aromatization? But no gyno?

[Swifto]

So let me get this straight, at those doses you do not run any ancillaries while on? You have got to have huge amounts of estrogen from aromatization? But no gyno?

Some simply dont need anti-e's.

[vitor]

At 4500mgs test ew, estrogen-levels are defently going thrue the roof, if an AI isnt being used.

Even if someone are almost immun to gyno, elevated-estrogen levels can raise BP, cause fat-depoits, acne, and kill libido.

Some people are much more prone to estrogen-related sides, though. To each their own...

[Tren Bull]

some people tell me you dont notice any differnce between 1 or 2 grams of test, others tell me it is al world of difference, also will the bloating be much more than with 1 gram?

and what about sust or test E? I will inject twice a week


week 1-8 1000/2000 Test E or sust
week 1-8 1000mg Tren E

week 1-4 200mg anadrol or 100/50 mg winny ject ED
week 5-10 100mg anavar
week 7-10 50mg halotestin

week 1-12 100 mg proviron ed
week 2-9 25 mcg T3 ed

jesus bro, your thinking of running 2000 mgs test and 1000 mgs tren enanthate a week? why bro? you only have so many androgen receptors in your body, which means that you can only absorb so much gear. the rest is a waste.

[BajanBastard]

jesus bro, your thinking of running 2000 mgs test and 1000 mgs tren enanthate a week? why bro? you only have so many androgen receptors in your body, which means that you can only absorb so much gear. the rest is a waste.

Not exactly true. Some people have high densities of AR in their muscle tissue and they are other non AR mediated mechanisms of muscle growth. Plus the more gear you use the higher AR turnover rate.

[taiboxa]

Not exactly true. Some people have high densities of AR in their muscle tissue and they are other non AR mediated mechanisms of muscle growth. Plus the more gear you use the higher AR turnover rate.

werd

[Swifto]

Not exactly true. Some people have high densities of AR in their muscle tissue and they are other non AR mediated mechanisms of muscle growth. Plus the more gear you use the higher AR turnover rate.

The wise one has spoken.....