First cycle help!!!

[rjlariv]

I am 5'10", 198lbs, 12.5% bf, 20 years old.
been lifting naturally for about 5 years dilligently. real muscle head. I lift 5 days a week. looking for an edge. i have been researching all these first timer threads and didnt find one that suited me. I am half way through a cycle of clen and suppose i will be under 12%bf when i am done. So I know i have a good base. I have a limit of what i can get my hands on. just asking for some vets help please. i have some dbol and i am wondering whether to cycle cycle it with decca or test for first cycle. Also, would sust be a good form for first cycle?

[SPIKE]

It would be nice to see you run some Test only. If you already have the D-bol on hand 30mgs ED for 4 weeks would help. Some may disagree with me but in some cases (like me) Test E takes up to 5-6 weeks to "kick in." At least with the D-bol front you can get the ball rolling. Get rid of the Deca.

What are your goals Rj?

[01dragonslayer]

At 20 ys/o I would hold off on AS for a couple more years. I know that you may think that your ready but your body may not be. Stay natural for 2 more years.

[LatinoPR]

Check the thread for newbies cycles.....

[SPIKE]

At 20 ys/o I would hold off on AS for a couple more years. I know that you may think that your ready but your body may not be. Stay natural for 2 more years.

I always say the same thing DS, always always always. Since the guys been lifting for 5 years already I know how tempting it gets.

I'm sure you've acquired a good base and keep lifting naturally as you continue to research AAS. Dont rush into anything and when you're ready make sure you post your final thought shere on AR. Many dont realize how lucky they are to have AR as a resource.

[marcus300]

I agree 20yrs old is to young, you can still build good quality muscle with your own bodys hormones with diet and intense training program, your still growing naturally so use it and when it comes to a stop then try some AAS,

Get a good solid base to work from and the gains will come on quick when you do start to use some AAS and far easier to maintain

[rjlariv]

I appreciate the help vets. I feel i have peaked about six months ago and that is when i started researching AAS. My bench and deadlift leveled out and i tried to change everything around from my diet to different lifting styles etc. every body is different but i know i need not preach to you guys. but i know my body and feel it has peaked possibly earlier than most. so i am still going to do AAS i just need some help deciding what my first cycle will be. through all my research and this site i only found one thread that said how many times per week to use sust. It said E3D at 250mg and that was by a junior member. is this correct? just want a vets opinion please. I do appreciate all the help and I am greatful for AR. without it i would be nowhere after six months of research.

[scerpico22]

most will tell you sust is no the best "first cycle" choice rather go with test e or test c
500 mg/wk for 10 or 12 weeks then std pct

or just check ou this sticky...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=120894

[rjlariv]

I have read that over and over. what is the reasoning behind the test e over the sust? I can only obtain sust. Should i expand my contacts till i can obtain some test e or would sust work. i know it is not ideal but it is what i am working with? also, is E3D correct?

[rjlariv]

JayHova,
my goals are to gain size and break through the strength and size barrier i have been trying to breach for the past six months. I have seen great gains up until then and want the gains to keep on going. but nothing seems to be working. That is why i said i want that edge.

[SPIKE]

JayHova,
my goals are to gain size and break through the strength and size barrier i have been trying to breach for the past six months. I have seen great gains up until then and want the gains to keep on going. but nothing seems to be working. That is why i said i want that edge.

Try working out differently and some new training tactics to break through those barriers. I agree with the other guys as far as your age in concerned. I'd really like to see you wait a little bit longer, it will only benefit you in the future.

[rjlariv]

I understand that and i have tried everything under God's sun to keep the gains on coming and nothin. I am very adament about starting a cycle. Lets say i did test c with dbol at ten weeks would this be a good cycle?

wk1-6 20mg dbol/day
wk1-10 test c 400mg/wk
wk12-13 clomid 50-100mg
wk12-15 nolva 20mg
with some nolva in the middle if the dbol starts getting rough.

is that enough time before i start my pct?

[SMAN12b]

I think you are too young also. Check out this thread and read the link about AAS under 21. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=212234

That being said, I would NOT limit the clomid to only 2 weeks

[rjlariv]

Noted. The rest looks descent for a first cycle?

[SMAN12b]

If you are set on Test cyp, then PCT should start 18 days after last cyp injection, but yes it looks ok