First Cycle, Help!

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 09:49 AM

I have spent a good bit of timeo on this site, reading and learning and now i am ready to try my first cycle, I have been working out steadily for the last 5 months and my friends say i should do a cycle of Winstrol tabs and Deca 300, so i have purchased it. Does this sound like a reasonable first cycle? I am basically looking to cut up more plus if possible add a bit more bulk!

**Bigmax** · 05-15-2006, 09:55 AM

Dude,are you sure you ve been on this site?....cause Ive never heard anyone recommend a cycle of deca and winny for anyone for there first cycle let alone any cycle.Anyway stats please??? training and diet sample??if youve been reading and learning you should know that training and diet should be on the money before even considering AAS.

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 09:58 AM

I am 6 foot 220 pounds I eat about 6 meals a day

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 09:59 AM

I want something that is mild, especially with side effects!

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 09:59 AM

Can i just take the Winny by itself?

**DamnYouMSN** · 05-15-2006, 10:00 AM

ehh...how long have you been working out?? i hope to god it's not really only 5months. anyhow you're friends are morons and are not looking out for you. best first cycle should be test only 500mgs a week.

**C_Bino** · 05-15-2006, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by poppa pump26

I have spent a good bit of timeo on this site, reading and learning and now i am ready to try my first cycle, I have been working out steadily for the last 5 months and my friends say i should do a cycle of Winstrol tabs and Deca 300, so i have purchased it. Does this sound like a reasonable first cycle? I am basically looking to cut up more plus if possible add a bit more bulk!

You have not been reading and learning enough it appears. Your friends know absolutely nothing about cycling and you, even less. 5 months of working out is nothing, try a few years before you start a cycle. Your muscle are just little babies now with no maturity and you will not be happy when you cycle.

My opinion is to sell whatever you purchased, as using it for yourself will be a big waste.

**DamnYouMSN** · 05-15-2006, 10:02 AM

i forgot to ask if you know what PCT is.....just drop AAS and go natural. also, READ READ READ READ

**SMAN12b** · 05-15-2006, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by poppa pump26

I want something that is mild, especially with side effects!

How about giving us all your stats so we can help you better. I would NEVER use Winny and Decca ALONE without some test in there.
If you have been onthis site, you could click on just about any post about first time cycles and you would have NEVER seen winny/Decca.
DON'T listen to your friends!!

The smartest first cycle should ALWAYS consist of a form of TEST alone. for many reasons:

Start reading this thread and answer the questions and we can go from there ok?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=241645

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 10:03 AM

I worked out for years and just had a shoulder injury that needed surgery, I stopped working out about 14 months ago and just got back into it about 5 months ago

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 10:04 AM

as i said I am 6 foot 220, I need to cut down a bit and tighten for summer

**mikemikemike** · 05-15-2006, 10:05 AM

take deca and d-boll. not winstrol....

**DamnYouMSN** · 05-15-2006, 10:05 AM

i guess what you need is diet and cardio

**playboii** · 05-15-2006, 10:06 AM

even if you dont listen to us which you probly wont..prepare to get SHUT DOWN and lets just say you want be making your g/f happy in the bed.

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 10:08 AM

I find it so funny to hear that when I see guys in much worst shape than I, take a cycle or two and come out 3 months later in ten times better shape than me, If they all can do it, what the hell is stopping me?

**DamnYouMSN** · 05-15-2006, 10:10 AM

be a moron don't listen to anyones advise then. screw up your body what the hell i do care anyways.

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 10:11 AM

I dont want to be a body builder, I just want to look good, and just excercise and cardio is not cutting it, I have been their and done that

**Booz** · 05-15-2006, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by mikemikemike

take deca and d-boll. not winstrol....

bad advice for a 1st cycle.........................

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 10:14 AM

What is the risk i am taking by just taking the Winny then for about 8 weeks just to cut down?

**playboii** · 05-15-2006, 10:14 AM

it doesnt matter if you want to be a body builder or not is about doing shit right if you want to proceed with the cycle go ahead but dont come back crying when you get shut down, because we already warned you.

**playboii** · 05-15-2006, 10:15 AM

you need some TEST wtf is wrong with people you need TEST in mostly every cycle especially if your going to include DECA

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 10:15 AM

I have thought about taking just Test, and then I hear side effects like Bitch titls and shit like that and i stay away from it, All i hear about Deca and Winny, is that it has the least of side effects??

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 10:17 AM

Than you tell me what a good solid cycle for my first one would be to take, Remember that i want to cut down, I really dont need size right now

**SMAN12b** · 05-15-2006, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by poppa pump26

What is the risk i am taking by just taking the Winny then for about 8 weeks just to cut down?

Do you like getting a hard on? Ever hear of Decca Dick?

We need all your stats, not just weight adn height,

AGE is important too. Cause now you sounding way too young and immature to be messin with bio-chemistry in your body

**playboii** · 05-15-2006, 10:18 AM

your suppose to take a Anti estrogen while your on test for example LETRO or NOLVADEX so your chances of gettn btch tits is very very little do search on ANTI estrogens you have to read

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 10:18 AM

I am 27 years old, i just get frustrated seeing all these morons at the gym who i know havent been working out for years that change their life almost overnight

**SMAN12b** · 05-15-2006, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by mikemikemike

take deca and d-boll. not winstrol....

Please tell me wher you came up with "take decca adn dbol for a first cycle"

**C_Bino** · 05-15-2006, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by poppa pump26

I have thought about taking just Test, and then I hear side effects like Bitch titls and shit like that and i stay away from it, All i hear about Deca and Winny, is that it has the least of side effects??

Not true, actually the worst side effects I have ever personally experienced is when I run deca. Its different for every person. No one can tell you what sides you will or will not get. But if you dont run test you are taking much more of a risk imo.

Btw how will winny get you cut up, and deca as well? Test imo is a much better cutter than winny. What is this UNIVERSAL belief that winny is going to get you cut, it may honestly be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

**Timm1704** · 05-15-2006, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by poppa pump26

What is the risk i am taking by just taking the Winny then for about 8 weeks just to cut down?

well, if your gonna do it regardless of the advice we give you, you may aswell make the mistake in the most productive and safe way possible. il be honest, before i found this site, i ran a 10 week deca-oral winstrol cycle, and for me, didnt get shut down too bad. i mean sure i wasnt half as horny as usual, but when the need for some blood flow to the groin came about, i was more than capable. it hardened me up, maybe added afew pounds, noticed a small strength increase. i would suggest, if you are dead set on running this cycle, 200-400mg deca per week, and 50-60g winny per day, but only run the winny for 6 weeks. BUT, you would get better results from a basic test course, such as test enanthate @500mg EW, for 10 weeks, and if you used a decent anti estrogen, you could avoid the water retention. i suggest proviron

**peump** · 05-15-2006, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by poppa pump26

Than you tell me what a good solid cycle for my first one would be to take, Remember that i want to cut down, I really dont need size right now

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=75729

this is just what you need

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 10:34 AM

How do you get rid of the deca dick?

**Booz** · 05-15-2006, 10:34 AM

you can get gyno from deca also mate.....................
have you done any research at all?

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 10:36 AM

What sort of anti estrogen drug can i take orally for gyno?

**poppa pump26** · 05-15-2006, 10:37 AM

can i get it at a local drug store or GNC or is it internet based?

**peump** · 05-15-2006, 10:40 AM

http://anabolicreview-research.com/shop/

**Bigmax** · 05-15-2006, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by mikemikemike

take deca and d-boll. not winstrol....

dont give advise if you dont know what you're talking about.What compelled you to puked that out of your mouth without having any reason or concrete justification to back it up?You need just as much help as he does.

**mcgas7** · 05-15-2006, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by poppa pump26

I have spent a good bit of timeo on this site, reading and learning and now i am ready to try my first cycle,

if that was the case.. you would have had a read on the steroid profiles etc.. which will bive u info on side effects etc..

first cycle is always adviced test only which u'd notice with your research..

**playboii** · 05-15-2006, 10:43 AM

do some searching! so we wont have to repeat things 100 times

**Bigmax** · 05-15-2006, 10:43 AM

you dont have to get rid of deca dick if you do it right to start with.Bro listen to the guys that are trying to help you.sounds to me like you have no biz doing AAS right now.Study your a$$ off about them first.

**SMAN12b** · 05-15-2006, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by poppa pump26

How do you get rid of the deca dick?

To get rid of Decca Dick, simply DO A HELL OF A LOT OF RESEARCH ON HERE BEFORE YOU EVER INJECT IT

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