One of my boys needs help !!!

**stuball** · 05-15-2006, 10:05 AM

One of my friends in the gym, who is actully a trainer, is looking to do his first cycle, he's 5/7 175 10% body fat training for 20 years and is 47 years old, he is in amazing shape, he lives in the gym and his diet is great, he's very dedicated, but he is pissed because he cant get bigger, so i suggested 40 mgs d-bol split through the day for four weeks and a test cyp or enan, 300mgs twice a week for 10 to 12 weeks, but he wants to also get vascular, does anybody have any suggestions, i told him about this forum but due to his wife and kids he says its impossible to come on...Thanks guys.

**SMAN12b** · 05-15-2006, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by stuball

One of my friends in the gym, who is actully a trainer, is looking to do his first cycle, he's 5/7 175 10% body fat training for 20 years and is 47 years old, he is in amazing shape, he lives in the gym and his diet is great, he's very dedicated, but he is pissed because he cant get bigger, so i suggested 40 mgs d-bol split through the day for four weeks and a test cyp or enan, 300mgs twice a week for 10 to 12 weeks, but he wants to also get vascular, does anybody have any suggestions, i told him about this forum but due to his wife and kids he says its impossible to come on...Thanks guys.

Well, stRAball, ...lolol You know what we say on here about first cycles. TEST TEST TEST. That being said. I dont' like Dbol for a beginner but to each his own. He could do somthin like this:

Weeks 1-4 Dbp; @ 40mgs/day
Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 300-500mgs/week
Weeks 9-14 Winny @50mgs/day

Starting PCT 14 days after last Test E shot which would coincide with the end of the Winny which will dry him out and give the hard vascular look he is after.

BUT AGAIN , IMHO Just a Test cycle first especially since he has his diet and training already inline, he would probably get amazing results and could add a compound on the next cycle
Are you OK with PCT for him?

**magic32** · 05-15-2006, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by stuball

One of my friends in the gym, who is actully a trainer, is looking to do his first cycle, he's 5/7 175 10% body fat training for 20 years and is 47 years old, he is in amazing shape, he lives in the gym and his diet is great, he's very dedicated, but he is pissed because he cant get bigger, so i suggested 40 mgs d-bol split through the day for four weeks and a test cyp or enan, 300mgs twice a week for 10 to 12 weeks, but he wants to also get vascular, does anybody have any suggestions, i told him about this forum but due to his wife and kids he says its impossible to come on...Thanks guys.

This site is not publicly filtered...might I suggest the library, cybercafe, friends’ house, etc.

M.

**stuball** · 05-15-2006, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by magic32

This site is not publicly filtered...might I suggest the library, cybercafe, friends’ house, etc.

M.

Good idea, but sometimes im on here for hours on end, foget it when i was doing research, i couldnt wait to get home to get on this forum, very addicitive..

**stuball** · 05-15-2006, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Well, stRAball, ...lolol You know what we say on here about first cycles. TEST TEST TEST. That being said. I dont' like Dbol for a beginner but to each his own. He could do somthin like this:

Weeks 1-4 Dbp; @ 40mgs/day
Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 300-500mgs/week
Weeks 9-14 Winny @50mgs/day

Starting PCT 14 days after last Test E shot which would coincide with the end of the Winny which will dry him out and give the hard vascular look he is after.

BUT AGAIN , IMHO Just a Test cycle first especially since he has his diet and training already inline, he would probably get amazing results and could add a compound on the next cycle
Are you OK with PCT for him?

Yeah ill hook him up with the pct, after he figures out what he wants to do, so foget about the d-bol run a test 1-12 and winny 9-14 he dosent trust anybody in the gym to talk to, so if i tell him foget about the d-bol he will listen, Thanks swanny