1st cycle, 2nd thoughts...

**j3374** · 05-16-2006, 01:20 PM

I've got some questions about my first cycle. First off, I'm really new to the whole AAS culture and am using steroids for MMA, not bodybuilding- so I'm not trying to get huge, just stronger.
My boxing coach set me up with my first stack- Norandren 50 (50 ML bottle) and Oxandralone in 2ml bottles at 30mg/ml. The Norandren 50 had been used previously (don't know how long ago) and has an expiration date of sept. 2000. The Oxandralone reads Oct. '99. My understanding is that these are Deca and Primobolan .
My coach is administering the injections with a 21 ga. 1.5" syringe and is giving me 2ml of the Deca and 2ml (1 vial) of the Primo. I am not seeing too dramatic results (probably equivilant to when I was using creatine) and requested to use more. He told me that any more would be too hard on the heart. From my own forum research, I'm really doubting this. I know the information is there, but there's a lot to wade through when first trying to learn all the terminology and varying opinions.
-Also, I paid

for the primo and

for "1 cycle's worth" of the Norandren.
-I am getting a really itchy red raised spot on my right glute where I recieved the shots.
-This guy is the only source I know for gear and I wanted to get started. I know he's used several kinds before, but I'm starting to doubt his actual overall knowledge.

**j3374** · 05-16-2006, 02:46 PM

Did some searches and realized that Oxandralone (also spelled oxandrolone) is actually anavar . BTW, I'm 5'9", 180, and 32 Y.O.

**novicenovicen** · 05-16-2006, 02:53 PM

Get the **** away from that guy!!!!!!!!!!!!

**novicenovicen** · 05-16-2006, 02:54 PM

He's sticking you with old, expired and previously opened gear? Run now and never look back. This guy doesn't give a shit about you.

**J0E** · 05-16-2006, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by novicenovicen

He's sticking you with old, expired and previously opened gear? Run now and never look back. This guy doesn't give a shit about you.

took the words right out of my mouth....

**taiboxa** · 05-16-2006, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by novicenovicen

He's sticking you with old, expired and previously opened gear? Run now and never look back. This guy doesn't give a shit about you.

yep FOR all u know it could be cornoil in hat deca bottle and running deca/var LOL oh god thats almost as bad as the IM GOING TO GET HUGE/RIPPED FOR SUMMER w/ MY DECA/WIN combo!

anyways heres what you need
TEST enanthate AND ONLY TEST! run it for 12-15 weeks use an AI/arimidex to drop water weight and keep blood pressure/stamina in check.
this traditional newbie starter cycle is VERY PIMP and i assure u, if u get the real stuff u will be feeling GODLY w/ a constant hard'on.

**Bigmax** · 05-16-2006, 03:02 PM

Your coach is an idiot....Your not seeing good gains??...alot of it is your diet guy.You could have put on some weight(muscle)by eating certain amount of foods(protein,carbs and fat)as for your AAS ...man who knows what he's giving you but judging by the way you're talking you know he' clueless.

**taiboxa** · 05-16-2006, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Your coach is an idiot....Your not seeing good gains??...alot of it is your diet guy.You could have put on some weight(muscle)by eating certain amount of foods(protein,carbs and fat)as for your AAS ...man who knows what he's giving you but judging by the way you're talking you know he' clueless.

i woldnt say ALOT of it is diet.. i would say ALL OF IT.. but thats just me.

**Booz** · 05-16-2006, 03:04 PM

you are new read the rules before you post somethin that will get you banned...
no price discussion allowed on the open forums..........................

**j3374** · 05-16-2006, 04:35 PM

I apologize for breaking the forum rules. I don't mind the flames- there is just a ton of info to keep track of with this stuff.
I'm really ignorant about this stuff and am making stupid beginner mistakes. I realize this. I kind of rushed into it.
Thanks for not banning me on the first offense. The realization that my coach is not too savvey is really recent. I'm starting to understand though.

**j3374** · 05-16-2006, 04:36 PM

Thanks Booz for going easy on me. It's obvious that I've got to learn more about the culture of AAS.

**j3374** · 05-16-2006, 05:13 PM

Source checks require 100 posts on this board. How do I do 100 posts with nothing to contribute?

**Tbone1975** · 05-16-2006, 05:25 PM

Make idiot posts like some guys do LOL. Go to the AR lounge or go to workout questions. You'll have stuff to contribute. Not everything on here is juice related.

**juicetexas** · 05-16-2006, 05:33 PM

Man even if you know very little about aas everyone has something to contribute go to the other forums, New member.... Diet..member pics...ect Get to know people ask diet advice, things of that nature, there is a lott of good bros on here that know what they are talking about. Stick arround and you'll be hooked

I know I am and I'm still a newbeeeeeeeeeeeee

**nygsxr1000** · 05-16-2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Tbone1975

Make idiot posts like some guys do LOL. Go to the AR lounge or go to workout questions. You'll have stuff to contribute. Not everything on here is juice related.

here is an idiot post.....great post tbone

just kidding.......seriously though you should have done your homework b/f you let him inject you with this stuff.............dont let him give you any more aas advice

**j3374** · 05-16-2006, 07:34 PM

Thanks for the input guys.

**j3374** · 05-16-2006, 11:17 PM

He he. I found the "new member" forum. I've decided I can be a Walmart greeter for them until I get 100 posts.

*edited*

**j3374** · 05-16-2006, 11:20 PM

edited

**pmorris** · 05-17-2006, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by j3374

My coach is usually a very good and trustworthy man. I think he's recently slipped back into his coke habbit and is acting very uncharacteristic of himself. I hate to see him like this.

cOKE heads are not trustworthy