same question u guys probably get all the time.

**blink555186** · 05-16-2006, 09:48 PM

I am 6'3" tall and weigh 150 pounds. i have always been the skinny kid no matter how much i work out and how much protein and calories i shove down my throat. my main goal is to gain weight(preferable in muscle). i have come to the conclusion that i am just not a big eater, plus i have a fast metabolism. so when i say i want to gain weight and people just tell me to eat more, they don't understand that i just cant do that. i have developed a major complex about being skinny. i really dislike taking my shirt off in public or anthing like that. can some one please recomended what i should use, what dose, and please recommend something that will still let my dick get hard...
my main goal is to look better, i want to gain at least 20 pounds of muscle, quickly. i have no problems doing steroids because i don't do any sports anymore, this is just for personal satisfaction. please help.

ps. i have heard alot about deca and dball, they seem to be the best, is this correct?

**anaBROLIC** · 05-16-2006, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by blink555186

I am 6'3" tall and weigh 150 pounds. i have always been the skinny kid no matter how much i work out and how much protein and calories i shove down my throat. my main goal is to gain weight(preferable in muscle). i have come to the conclusion that i am just not a big eater, plus i have a fast metabolism. so when i say i want to gain weight and people just tell me to eat more, they don't understand that i just cant do that. i have developed a major complex about being skinny. i really dislike taking my shirt off in public or anthing like that. can some one please recomended what i should use, what dose, and please recommend something that will still let my dick get hard...
my main goal is to look better, i want to gain at least 20 pounds of muscle, quickly. i have no problems doing steroids because i don't do any sports anymore, this is just for personal satisfaction. please help.

ps. i have heard alot about deca and dball, they seem to be the best, is this correct?

absolutely not! .. dont know where alot of new guys are getting this from

anyways welcome to the board, read around and do some research. how old are you, how long hve you been training for? whats your diet look like? calories/protien intake?

**anaBROLIC** · 05-16-2006, 09:56 PM

hey sman, give him the link.... lol

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by blink555186

I am 6'3" tall and weigh 150 pounds. i have always been the skinny kid no matter how much i work out and how much protein and calories i shove down my throat. my main goal is to gain weight(preferable in muscle). i have come to the conclusion that i am just not a big eater, plus i have a fast metabolism. so when i say i want to gain weight and people just tell me to eat more, they don't understand that i just cant do that. i have developed a major complex about being skinny. i really dislike taking my shirt off in public or anthing like that. can some one please recomended what i should use, what dose, and please recommend something that will still let my dick get hard...
my main goal is to look better, i want to gain at least 20 pounds of muscle, quickly. i have no problems doing steroids because i don't do any sports anymore, this is just for personal satisfaction. please help.

ps. i have heard alot about deca and dball, they seem to be the best, is this correct?

welcome to AR, read read and read, you have alot to learn, training and diet are more important than yur cyle, dose is depndent on you and your age, read the steroid profile section and the sample begginer cycles at www.steroid.com. also read the wrokout and diet forum. your question you asked is way to general,

**HORSE~** · 05-16-2006, 09:58 PM

No matter what aas you use you wont be abale to make good gains if you dont eat the right amount of food cal's carb's and protein and if you do gain muscle mass youll still lose it if your bodies nutrtional requirment's are not met.

Dbol and deca equals bad idea.

What are your age stats and goals and well see if we can help you out.

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 09:59 PM

Steroids will NOT put any weight or muscle on you unless you EAT and TRAIN!! You said you don't do any sports anymore, does that include lifting weights?

Most people eat a LOT MORE when they use AAS.
The basics are that AAs just allows your body to synthesis more protein so that it can build more muscle if the demand is there. If you are not eating enough , then the AAS will just be a waste for you....sorry

Check out the diet forum and you might get some ideas for gaining some quality weight

GOOD LUCK and WELCOME TO AR

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 10:01 PM

read read and than read some more, everything you ever needed is here

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 10:02 PM

You got it anaBROLIC.....

Here is where you can start Blink:

Sources for New members!!!!!

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 10:04 PM

i like that post, it helps me alot

**anaBROLIC** · 05-16-2006, 10:06 PM

its smans job to make sure all newbies with less then 10 posts read it! lol

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by anaBROLIC

its smans job to make sure all newbies with less then 10 posts read it! lol

HEY, I dont' remember applying for that job.....lololol

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

HEY, I dont' remember applying for that job.....lololol

well thank you, even thought it ist your job i certainly appreciate it

**~fuelforfire~** · 05-16-2006, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Steroids will NOT put any weight or muscle on you unless you EAT and TRAIN!! You said you don't do any sports anymore, does that include lifting weights?

Most people eat a LOT MORE when they use AAS.
The basics are that AAs just allows your body to synthesis more protein so that it can build more muscle if the demand is there. If you are not eating enough , then the AAS will just be a waste for you....sorry

Check out the diet forum and you might get some ideas for gaining some quality weight

GOOD LUCK and WELCOME TO AR

**** man your a smart doode

**anaBROLIC** · 05-16-2006, 10:10 PM

its def a good idea, but theres still gonna be some of the guys who blow off reading all that and would rather post the same newbie questions 10 times over

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

well thank you, even thought it ist your job i certainly appreciate it

ANYTIME for you DOC, just keep the wise guys off my tail.....lolol

**blink555186** · 05-16-2006, 10:10 PM

i am currently 19 years old. i know this may seem too young to some of you, but my mind is made up. i still left weights ALL the time. i currently am doing the max ot training program. its basicly 4-6 reps and about 4 sets, because i want to gain mass. i consume roughly 50 grams of protein a day from whey protein drinks and 5 grams of creatine a day. and i eat a shit load of fish. i know that has alot of protein in it.

my goal is to pretty much look like a damn navy seal. also i do some modeling and i would love to have the body of an abercrombie model (don't laugh, i havn't made fun of those of u who cant get ur dicks up, j/k) i feel that i have the potential to be a great model, but the only thing holding me back is my size.

so can some one recomend which roid i should use to get those bar room arms, massive pecs (but not bitch tits), and still keep my six pack (the one thing i have going for me...)

i understand that it will still be up to me to eat right and train right, but i know that i can do that when i am seeing quick results.

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by anaBROLIC

its def a good idea, but theres still gonna be some of the guys who blow off reading all that and would rather post the same newbie questions 10 times over

DAMN.....my work is never done.....

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by blink555186

i am currently 19 years old. i know this may seem too young to some of you, but my mind is made up. i still left weights ALL the time. i currently am doing the max ot training program. its basicly 4-6 reps and about 4 sets, because i want to gain mass. i consume roughly 50 grams of protein a day from whey protein drinks and 5 grams of creatine a day. and i eat a shit load of fish. i know that has alot of protein in it.

my goal is to pretty much look like a damn navy seal. also i do some modeling and i would love to have the body of an abercrombie model (don't laugh, i havn't made fun of those of u who cant get ur dicks up, j/k) i feel that i have the potential to be a great model, but the only thing holding me back is my size.

so can some one recomend which roid i should use to get those bar room arms, massive pecs (but not bitch tits), and still keep my six pack (the one thing i have going for me...)

WOW !! Someone else take this one...I don't think I can type that much.....

**anaBROLIC** · 05-16-2006, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by blink555186

i am currently 19 years old. i know this may seem too young to some of you, but my mind is made up. i still left weights ALL the time. i currently am doing the max ot training program. its basicly 4-6 reps and about 4 sets, because i want to gain mass. i consume roughly 50 grams of protein a day from whey protein drinks and 5 grams of creatine a day. and i eat a shit load of fish. i know that has alot of protein in it.

my goal is to pretty much look like a damn navy seal. also i do some modeling and i would love to have the body of an abercrombie model (don't laugh, i havn't made fun of those of u who cant get ur dicks up, j/k) i feel that i have the potential to be a great model, but the only thing holding me back is my size.

so can some one recomend which roid i should use to get those bar room arms, massive pecs (but not bitch tits), and still keep my six pack (the one thing i have going for me...)

you wanna gain size to become an abercrombie model? i thought those guys were just skinny guys with a six pack, i dont remember ever seeing any massive dudes on an advertisment. btw your too young for AS. it sounds like the goals your trying to reach to look a certain way arent to far outta reach naturally. time, patience and dedication.

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by anaBROLIC

you wanna gain size to become an abercrombie model? i thought those guys were just skinny guys with a six pack, i dont remember ever seeing any massive dudes on an advertisment. btw your too young for AS. it sounds like the goals your trying to reach to look a certain way arent to far outta reach naturally. time, patience and dedication.

dont consider juice unless you are at least 23, hell i recomend 25yo. you have alot of time to make great natural gains, juice cant be used instead of working out hard and correct diet, learn the basics, tinker with your workouts and diet and stay consitent when wroking out, dont workout for a month than take off 2 months, if you do this you will get nowhere, steroid are used to enhance performance,not replace a soilid work ethic or workingout in general

**blink555186** · 05-16-2006, 10:21 PM

in that case, just focus on the navy seal look for now...

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 10:21 PM

WOW, where to start.....IF you dont' do the work, no steroid in the world is gonna help you. for starters you diet is WAK !!! YOU have to eat to build. That means at mimum 6 meals a day spaced every 3 hours with at least 40 grams of protein at EACH meal. (not gonna get into all the details here)
Then you have to bust your ass in the gym and do cardio

AT 19 you can ptotentioally screw up you HPTA for the rest of your life!! and you talk about making fun of us that can't get a hard on......that will be YOU permantly if you don't know what you are doing like a winny only cycle or a decca only cycle

Please read the links and learn a little before you start
at your age you have MORE than enough of every hormone you need to make incredible gains with just the proper workouts and diet

and you need a NATURAL base BEFORE you start AAS or I promise you that you will regret it for the rest of your life!!!!

**blink555186** · 05-16-2006, 10:27 PM

i already do eat times a day. i'm not saying i just consume 50 grams of protein a day, thats just what i consume in the protein drinks. i have been weight training for about 4 years. i have gained a total of about...15 lbs. serously. my current diet includes bacond and eggs every morning, apple for a snack, chick for lunch, usualy some sort of pasta for dinner. honestly, i realy tried to not use steroids , but the natural way isnt working for me.

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 10:29 PM

gain the most you can while you are young, use your natural test and GH to do the work, once you reach the point of your genetic best,than you may consider alternat methods like steroids . i am glad i did it this way, it put me way ahead of the game. my friends who didnt do this, who juiced before they reached there ptential, have had terrible gains that anyone could achieve naturaly where my gains have been well above regular capacity since i pushed myself to the limit before i cycled.

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by blink555186

i already do eat times a day. i'm not saying i just consume 50 grams of protein a day, thats just what i consume in the protein drinks. i have been weight training for about 4 years. i have gained a total of about...15 lbs. serously. my current diet includes bacond and eggs every morning, apple for a snack, chick for lunch, usualy some sort of pasta for dinner. honestly, i realy tried to not use steroids, but the natural way isnt working for me.

That only looks like 3 meals and a shake.... Past isnt' good for you for building,
6 meals every 3 hours each meal MUST contain at least 40g if not MORE protein, PROPER caarbs, and GOOD fat, NOT BACON....

Please go to the diet forum.....if you are not willing to correct your own mistakes AAS will not do it for you like DOC SUST said!!!!!

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by blink555186

i already do eat times a day. i'm not saying i just consume 50 grams of protein a day, thats just what i consume in the protein drinks. i have been weight training for about 4 years. i have gained a total of about...15 lbs. serously. my current diet includes bacond and eggs every morning, apple for a snack, chick for lunch, usualy some sort of pasta for dinner. honestly, i realy tried to not use steroids, but the natural way isnt working for me.

this could be for many reasons. the way you train, overall diet, when you take protein and ho much protein you are taking etc etc..there are many variables, i would bet my life it is how you workout,that is why you arent making gains describe your workout routine and if you are consistent year round

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 10:32 PM

and go to the workout forum, read the stickys on the various routines and pick one that works for you

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

and go to the workout forum, read the stickys on the various routines and pick one that works for you

All the young pups want help from the PROS, but never want to listen to them.....Good luck DOC, we tried

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by blink555186

i already do eat times a day. i'm not saying i just consume 50 grams of protein a day, thats just what i consume in the protein drinks. i have been weight training for about 4 years. i have gained a total of about...15 lbs. serously. my current diet includes bacond and eggs every morning, apple for a snack, chick for lunch, usualy some sort of pasta for dinner. honestly, i realy tried to not use steroids, but the natural way isnt working for me.

hey BLINK, see my pic in the AVATAR???? That was me at 33 BEFORE i ever touched AAs, That is what YOU can do ten times easier at 19 than I did at 33 !!!!

**blink555186** · 05-16-2006, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

All the young pups want help from the PROS, but never want to listen to them.....Good luck DOC, we tried

using steroids makes u a PRO now?

**anaBROLIC** · 05-16-2006, 10:40 PM

no... knowledge makes someone a pro.

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by blink555186

using steroids makes u a PRO now?

Well whoever told you that should be SHOT
because that couldn't be FURTHER from the truth than anything...

READ THIS THREAD OVER AGAIN

Look Blink...we are NOT here to stop you from doing AAS. WE volunteer our time and energy and advice to help those who are doing it the safest way possible
We do not get a kickback for every kid we turn away from AAS

OUR only concern here is YOUR health YOUR future....If your goal is to be the biggest guy in the worls, that is FINE, but we will advise you on how to get there the BEST way possible...Just so happens that way may not be the way you want to go but it WILL get you there HEALTHY

The fact that you would rather argue this point instead of realize that we speak the truth, show all too well that you do NOT have the mental maturity it take to do AAS properly and if you proceed on the course you have chosen, then you will end up with your hormones screwed up for life!!

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!!

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

All the young pups want help from the PROS, but never want to listen to them.....Good luck DOC, we tried

you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink......same old same old,...... everyone always looks for the shortcut, the answer is there is no short cut to hard work

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Well whoever told you that should be SHOT
because that couldn't be FURTHER from the truth than anything...

READ THIS THREAD OVER AGAIN

Look Blink...we are NOT here to stop you from doing AAS. WE volunteer our time and energy and advice to help those who are doing it the safest way possible
We do not get a kickback for every kid we turn away from AAS

OUR only concern here is YOUR health YOUR future....If your goal is to be the biggest guy in the worls, that is FINE, but we will advise you on how to get there the BEST way possible...Just so happens that way may not be the way you want to go but it WILL get you there HEALTHY

The fact that you would rather argue this point instead of realize that we speak the truth, show all too well that you do NOT have the mental maturity it take to do AAS properly and if you proceed on the course you have chosen, then you will end up with your hormones screwed up for life!!

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!!

couldnt have said it better myself

**SMAN12b** · 05-16-2006, 10:44 PM

Well , I am going back to th eboard and try to help those that have open minds and are willing to listen and appreciate our efforts to help them.....

Bye Bye Blink

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

hey BLINK, see my pic in the AVATAR???? That was me at 33 BEFORE i ever touched AAs, That is what YOU can do ten times easier at 19 than I did at 33 !!!!

this is how it is done right. listen to the man, take yourself as far as you can naturaly b4 you consider this. at 19, you havent even come close to your natural potential

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 10:50 PM

blink, we are here to help,not hurt,listen to us we have experience with this, when i was your age i thought the same way, i learned from others to NOT juice until i reached a certain age and a certain fitness level, i am glad i listened and have many powerlfiting records to thank for it because i did it right. trust me, you are not ready, not yet, stay on the board, ask questions read the workouts and get advice, buy knowledegable books on traing and diet(muscle and fitness doesnt count as a knowledegeable book) your workout and diet are 99% of how your results turn out, you will be suprised what a few changes to both can do for your gains

**blink555186** · 05-16-2006, 11:03 PM

alright i admit it, i was a bit of an ass there. the simple fact is that i WILL be juicing up one way or another. i understand that prettymuch everyone on this board will advise against it. which i appriciate the concern. but like i said, i will be doing some, so i would like to have some "profesional" advise on which ones i should use and at what dose.

***Doc.Sust*** · 05-16-2006, 11:09 PM

if you arent going to listen at least research everything before you take anything,including your routine and diet and how to take aproper cycle and how to do PCT, if you dont know about PCT and how to stack, you have no bussiness doing a cycle