Using HCG

[MrMe]

I was interested in doing Anthonys PCT using HCG and I have a bunch of questions on HCG that i cant seem to find so here goes...

First off can I do 1000ui EOD for the 3 weeks instead of 500ui ED? Would this change the PCT routine too much?

Once mixed i will keep it in the fridge, but i heard if you move it around it can get bruised. How delicate is it and what happends lets say if you shake it too much?

I know i can inject IM or SQ (slin pin). Is a 30g 1/2 pin enough for SQ? I was going to use a 25g 1inch to draw then change the pin to 30g 1/2.

I also have BA water in a sealed vial, should i use all the 5ml from that instead of 4ml BA and 1ml from the included amp. I heard that the 1ml water from the amp is mainly for 1 time use. Also can i use 2.5ml instead of 5ml to make the injections smaller?

[MrMe]

bump anyone?

[speak]

Mainly I'm just bumping, but I don't think there is any wrong or right way to do it. I also have been doing lots of research on it and no one really agrees on much because I don't think anyone really knows. I'll still try to answer:

1. I don't think bumping it from 500 to 1000 will hurt, I have read where some people do 1000 anyway. Me personally am gonna do 500.

2. Never heard of bruising it, this is new to me.

3. On the pin size, I think you are worrying too much, it doesn't matter where you put it so just stab away....well avoid veins.

4. Seems most people don't use the water it comes with so I would not either. If you make the injections smaller they will just be stronger, so don't see the point of this.

[MAXIMA5]

It bruises easily, like HGH.

I swirl it slightly, I never shake it. It's going to get mixed when you transfer it to the sterile vial anyways.

[MrMe]

Thanks for the answer speak. Only reason i would go 1000ui is if I go EOD instead of ED. Not sure if im up to poking my abs 21 times. As for the bruising, they say not to shake it up, not sure why though!

Mainly I'm just bumping, but I don't think there is any wrong or right way to do it. I also have been doing lots of research on it and no one really agrees on much because I don't think anyone really knows. I'll still try to answer:

1. I don't think bumping it from 500 to 1000 will hurt, I have read where some people do 1000 anyway. Me personally am gonna do 500.

2. Never heard of bruising it, this is new to me.

3. On the pin size, I think you are worrying too much, it doesn't matter where you put it so just stab away....well avoid veins.

4. Seems most people don't use the water it comes with so I would not either. If you make the injections smaller they will just be stronger, so don't see the point of this.

[JohnnyB]

I don't know what they exact protocol is, but if it involves using HCG during PCT, don't do it. Here's why, HCG mimics LH, the reason you do PCT, is to stimulate your natural LH. That's what nolva and clomid are for to stimulate the LH, LH is to get your test production back to normal.

If you have HCG in your system, mimicking LH, the body thinks it already has LH so it doesn't need to produce any more. So grant it, you'll get your test levels up while on the HCG, but the nolva and/or clomid wont get your LH stimulated because, the body was sending a signal that it all ready had LH.

So the possibility for a crash, is very possible, I'd say highly possible. If your body isn't producing LH, the body isn't going to produce natural testosterone. The best protocol for HCG use is the one by SWALE.

He is a Doctor that works with HRT patients and man the cycle steroids. He has real world results from patients and clients that have used his protocol while on AAS cycles. I've used his protocol as have many other on these boards. It worked just fine, if you'll like to read about it you can do so here

http://67.18.108.244//showthread.php?t=169502

If you do a search with the name SWALE you'll be able to find more.

JohnnyB

[JohnnyB]

Mainly I'm just bumping, but I don't think there is any wrong or right way to do it. I also have been doing lots of research on it and no one really agrees on much because I don't think anyone really knows.

I believe the SWALE protocol is the best, it has real world results and is from a Doctor, that deals with HRT patients, he has access to medical report then we can't get to. He has blood work from patients, which take all the guess work out of trying to figure all this out.

We have studies, that have been done in clinical settings, which is good. But to have worked with patients, adjusting their doses and seeing the blood work results, after those adjustment, makes a big difference.

JohnnyB