Tren for strength

**SupaDJDiesel** · 05-26-2006, 12:07 PM

I just started my first cycle yesterday. It's Tren only as I do not have a source or 100 posts. I might run some Phera along with it (desoxymethyltestosterone for those who don't bother with designer crap) as a substitute for Test.

My cycle(idea):

20mg phera throughout

wk1: Tren 75mg eod
wk2: Tren 100mg eod
wk3: Tren 100mg eod
wk4: Tren 75mg eod

I'm doing this strictly for strength. Looking to add 40-50lbs. to my core lifts. Calories will be about 5,000 per day with 400g protein. The cycle is short becuase I've already been using superdrol (methylmasteron) and e...max (some sort of abortion pill that makes me insane) for a couple weeks. Also becuase I'm sharing with my training partner and our conversion seems a little short of where it should be.

I guess my question is: Are my strength expectations reasonable?

***BajanBastard*** · 05-26-2006, 12:19 PM

And how do you plan on keeping this strength? There's a direct correlation between permanent strength gain and gains in muscle mass on cycle.

First off tren w/o test poor idea,

Second; tren as a 1st cycle drug w/o proper research, (i did tren i my 1st cycle but after doing over a year of research).

Number three; injecting tren EoD and a 4 week pyramid? Hell no.

The DMT is not a suitable testosterone replacement .

Did you get BW after using the SD?

**SupaDJDiesel** · 05-26-2006, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

And how do you plan on keeping this strength? There's a direct correlation between permanent strength gain and gains in muscle mass on cycle.

First off tren w/o test poor idea,

Second; tren as a 1st cycle drug w/o proper research, (i did tren i my 1st cycle but after doing over a year of research).

Number three; injecting tren EoD and a 4 week pyramid? Hell no.

The DMT is not a suitable testosterone replacement .

Did you get BW after using the SD?

1. Nothing I can really do abot the lack of test. I can try converting synovex but besides that I have nothing.

3. How long should my pyramid be?

4. No. Superdrol actually does nothing for me. I ran a SD only cycle in October. I gained about 15lbs of fat and major back and calf pump. Nothing else. I was hoping that it would do something for me now and it doesn't. Phera is mediocre. I'm not gaining fat now because I'm on T3.

**01dragonslayer** · 05-26-2006, 12:37 PM

More research prior to starting your cycle would have concluded that a tren only cycle is not a good option and for a first cycle may compound the problem. A test ester should be the base of every cycle and its great cycled alone for a first go.

**Daveskidoof3** · 05-26-2006, 02:26 PM

I am on a tren only cycle right now, 100 mg eod and I have had great results. I have had a huge gain in strength and lean muscle, about 12 lbs so far. I am much more vascular, and the pumps are great. I know everyone on here says tren with no test is no good but I think it depends on the person, next time I do tren I will use test also, I can't imagine the gains I will see then. To each is own, good luck.

**LatinoPR** · 05-26-2006, 02:33 PM

IMO..i will add T. Prop in combination with youre Tren ...

**SupaDJDiesel** · 05-27-2006, 11:02 AM

Damn, I got so many source PM's (none) that I'm literally swimming in test. Thank you, generous brothers.

***BajanBastard*** · 05-27-2006, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by SupaDJDiesel

Damn, I got so many source PM's (none) that I'm literally swimming in test. Thank you, generous brothers.

Really? PM me the names of those generous brothers, so they may be justly rewarded!

**Mighty Joe** · 05-27-2006, 11:19 AM

Listen to these vets bro! They are here to help, as I assume thats why you're asking in the first place.

First rule of thumb is to stay safe and do the research.

MJ

**marcus300** · 05-27-2006, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

And how do you plan on keeping this strength? There's a direct correlation between permanent strength gain and gains in muscle mass on cycle.

First off tren w/o test poor idea,

Second; tren as a 1st cycle drug w/o proper research, (i did tren i my 1st cycle but after doing over a year of research).

Number three; injecting tren EoD and a 4 week pyramid? Hell no.

The DMT is not a suitable testosterone replacement .

Did you get BW after using the SD?

agreed......

BG · 05-27-2006, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Really? PM me the names of those generous brothers, so they may be justly rewarded!

Nice.

**Liftnainez** · 05-27-2006, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Really? PM me the names of those generous brothers, so they may be justly rewarded!

**randy6969** · 05-27-2006, 01:50 PM

im on tren 75mg ed, and so far its been ok... not as good as i expected it to be.. but im happy wid the results.. i didnt get any sideffects im 3 weeks into the cycle.. planning on ending it in a total of 6 weeks... so far i gained 10 lbs.. if i could do it again i would include test in the cycle for better results,... even though running it alone didnt give me any trouble i just want better gains... test with tren from what ive read yeilds much better gains together... i noticed a lot of strength gain as well so its a amazing compound