First Cycle

[peterk19]

Ok ive just started my first cycle and was just wondering what i could stack onto it to help harden up at the end

im going to be taking

20x 200ml of Deca
20x 200ml of Test cyp
10x Test Prop (every 3 days for the first couple of weeks till the deca and cyp kick in))
Nolva every day
ive got my PCT sorted with clomid and HCG 5000iu

ill be taking the deca and test cyp twice a week for 10 weeks
any advice would be appreciated

[Swifto]

Ok ive just started my first cycle and was just wondering what i could stack onto it to help harden up at the end

im going to be taking

20x 200ml of Deca
20x 200ml of Test cyp
10x Test Prop (every 3 days for the first couple of weeks till the deca and cyp kick in))
Nolva every day
ive got my PCT sorted with clomid and HCG 5000iu

ill be taking the deca and test cyp twice a week for 10 weeks
any advice would be appreciated

Age? Stats? Training experience?

Take the Test Cyp alone at 350-500mg/wk for 10-12 weeks. Not need for Deca for a first cycle.

Your could also end the cycle with Test Prop for the final 4-6 weeks, 75mg/ED

HCG/Nolva would be better than HCG/Clomid aswell. Adding an AI, would also be benificial. Proviron 50mg/ED, Aromasin 20mg/ED, Arimidex 0.5-1.0mg/ED, L-Dex 0.5-1.0mg/ED.

[peterk19]

Age? Stats? Training experience?

Take the Test Cyp alone at 350-500mg/wk for 10-12 weeks. Not need for Deca for a first cycle.

Your could also end the cycle with Test Prop for the final 4-6 weeks, 75mg/ED

HCG/Nolva would be better than HCG/Clomid aswell. Adding an AI, would also be benificial. Proviron 50mg/ED, Aromasin 20mg/ED, Arimidex 0.5-1.0mg/ED, L-Dex 0.5-1.0mg/ED.

im 5'11" 24 weight 14 - 15 stone, been boxing training most of my life, weight lifting the past 2 years
flat bench 120 (today)

[cfiler]

Too much gear imo. All you need is just a single ester test, and run that at 250-500 mgs weekly for 10 weeks.

[peterk19]

Too much gear imo. All you need is just a single ester test, and run that at 250-500 mgs weekly for 10 weeks.

i already have the gear i suppose i could hold onto it for noher cycle, what exactly would you recomend?

[BigDaddy2003]

i already have the gear i suppose i could hold onto it for noher cycle, what exactly would you recomend?

a 10-12 week cycle of test alone is a great starter cycle, and just make sure u got good pct and youll be ripped in no time should save the rest for another cycle imho

[marcus300]

First cycle stick with just test only at 500mg per wk for 10-12 weeks, this is all you need no point in adding any other compounds see how you respond with just the test first, normally you will grow very well if the training program and diet are in order, diet is the key to muscle groowth.

[Ufa]

First cycle always test only. Do 400mg or 500mg test weekly.

[ThaPrepster82]

Bump...TEST only cycle for first is the way 2 go..just 2 see how your bodys going 2 react 2 it in the first place

[peterk19]

Cheers for the info lads my diet is not perfect but very good ive been reading up a lot lately and adjusting it, also the most important thing is i want to keep my gains so any advice on that is also appreciated
cheers

[marcus300]

Cheers for the info lads my diet is not perfect but very good ive been reading up a lot lately and adjusting it, also the most important thing is i want to keep my gains so any advice on that is also appreciated
cheers

Diet is the key to muscle tissue growth and maintaining it, trust me when you get this right and have total commitment to it you will change the appearance of your body

[cfiler]

Personally, I'm a believer in starting small and working your way up. My first cycle is 250mgs of test for 10 weeks. 2nd is 500mgs for 10 weeks. ect. Just increase small amounts.

[WEBB]

week 1-12 250-500mg test cyp
week 1-4 100mg prop ed or eod
week 12-16 100mg prop eod

also you will need t get some anti-e just in case and get some pct set up, or you will be sorry...

[peterk19]

week 1-12 250-500mg test cyp
week 1-4 100mg prop ed or eod
week 12-16 100mg prop eod

also you will need t get some anti-e just in case and get some pct set up, or you will be sorry...

Cheers mate i have all the pct and anti-e sorted that was the first thing ordered,

[Johner]

what do you think of Test E from ....(500mg/2ml) to use in a first inj cycle?

[juiceboxxx]

what do you think of Test E from -- (500mg/2ml) to use in a first inj cycle?

no ugl postings. not even initials. read the rules and edit ur post.

[Swifto]

week 1-12 250-500mg test cyp
week 1-4 100mg prop ed or eod
week 12-16 100mg prop eod

also you will need t get some anti-e just in case and get some pct set up, or you will be sorry...

You should run the Test Cyp to week 14 and start the Test Prop again at 75-100mg/ED from week 12-16. This way PCT will match up correctly. It doesnt take 4 weeks for Test Cyp to no longer be active in ones body.

what do you think of Test E from *D(500mg/2ml) to use in a first inj cycle?

As above. Your not permitted to post UGL's in the open forum. Read/Re-Read the Rules.

no ugl postings. not even initials. read the rules and edit ur post.

You also shouldnt quote them...

[Johner]

whoa? i can mention Organon or Norma and i can t say ? is not a source u kno thar right?

[cfiler]

whoa? i can mention Organon or Norma and i can t say ...................is not a source u kno thar right?

It's an underground lab. No underground labs are to be posted on the board.

[Booz]

whoa? i can mention Organon or Norma and i can t say ? is not a source u kno thar right?

it is an underground lab and against the rules to post them on the open forum...read the rules as you obv have not......................