winny and tren together or separate

**bigguy20** · 05-29-2006, 06:06 PM

going to start my test winny and tren on june 1st

just curious what you guys think would be bvetter to do...

week 1-10 test e
weekk 1-8 tren
week 1-6 winny
week 10 -14 prop

or should i spread the winny and tren and do 1-6winny and 6-14 tren?? would separating them be better worse or it doesnt matter?

**joshr** · 05-29-2006, 06:13 PM

why the prop for 4 weeks if your wanting to do that try this
wk 1-10 test e
week 1-8 tren
week 8-14 winny
week10-14 prop
personally i would drop the prop run the test e for 12 weeks something like this
week 1-12 test e
week 1-8 tren
week 8=14 winny
run the winny straight to your pct what are the mg you plan on running

**bigguy20** · 05-29-2006, 06:27 PM

well i want to run my prop for the last 4 weeks because i want to start post cycle right away as im going on a trip shortly afterwards.
is there a reason for the winny first or is it preference?? im just curious.

**bigguy20** · 05-29-2006, 06:31 PM

it will be a fairly low dose cycle
test e will be 250mg every 4 days week 1-10
prop will be 100mg eod week 10-14
winny will only be 35mg per day week 1-6 (or whatever i decide after this thread)
tren 75mg eod for 8 weeks (same as above)

**SMAN12b** · 05-29-2006, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by bigguy20

well i want to run my prop for the last 4 weeks because i want to start post cycle right away as im going on a trip shortly afterwards.
is there a reason for the winny first or is it preference?? im just curious.

Well under you circumstances, I would go with Joshr's first cycle he has up there. You could run the Test E to week 12 but make sure you keep the prop at the same Mg as the E so yoru levels are stable

What doses are you planning to run??

**SMAN12b** · 05-29-2006, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by bigguy20

it will be a fairly low dose cycle
test e will be 250mg every 4 days week 1-10
prop will be 100mg eod week 10-14
winny will only be 35mg per day week 1-6 (or whatever i decide after this thread)
tren 75mg eod for 8 weeks (same as above)

Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500/week shot on Monday morn and thurs night
Weeks 1- 8 Tren @ 75mgs/ed
Weeks 13-14 Test Prop @ 500/week shot 125mgs/EOD
Weeks 9-14 Winny @ 50mgs/ED

PCT starts First day of week 15

Just a suggestion

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SMAN

**bigguy20** · 05-29-2006, 06:40 PM

the doses are above your post i may have sent it right as you were sending your reply SMAN.

so you guys think the winny is best first??
so im guessing that separating them will be better than running them together.

**New Juice** · 05-29-2006, 06:43 PM

Sman is right on...that is the ideal way to run those compounds together...test e for 12, prop 2 weeks after that matching w/ the winny...pct will line up nicely

**bigguy20** · 05-29-2006, 06:49 PM

ok sounds good is it still ok to do test e for 10 weeks and finish with the last four weeks of prop?? its just due to the gear i have itll work out better for me. also winny is run for 5 weeks at 50mg ed instead of 35mg ed for six weeks? is that better for me?

**taiboxa** · 05-29-2006, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500/week shot on Monday morn and thurs night
Weeks 1- 8 Tren @ 75mgs/ed
Weeks 13-14 Test Prop @ 500/week shot 125mgs/EOD
Weeks 9-14 Winny @ 50mgs/ED

PCT starts First day of week 15

Just a suggestion

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SMAN

there is a deceant QUALITY cycle that i would reccomend
just make sure win is taken 2x a day

**SMAN12b** · 05-29-2006, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by bigguy20

ok sounds good is it still ok to do test e for 10 weeks and finish with the last four weeks of prop?? its just due to the gear i have itll work out better for me. also winny is run for 5 weeks at 50mg ed instead of 35mg ed for six weeks? is that better for me?

I saw your doses bigguy, Just giving you my opinion on how to run the cycle to get the maximum results.
I would finish with the winny, it will help cut you up and harden you at the end.
Test E takes anywhere from 6-8 weeks to fully kick in , therefore I would run it 12 if you can. Prop takes about a week to kick in BUT since you want to run is so you can do PCT quicker, it will do , Not optimum, but OK

You can run the cycle however you would like, this is just ONE optimum way in order for you to get the most for your money. Results may be lessened if you run it lower or shorter

50mgs, is usually the minimum dose for Winny, again, YES you can run it lower, but I think you will be wasting your money and not getting great results.

That is why I said it was ONLY my suggestion, which I believe is what your were looking for.

Just so you know your results may vary with your running at lower doses and different times

GOOD LUCK,

Keep us posted

**SMAN12b** · 05-29-2006, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

there is a deceant QUALITY cycle that i would reccomend
just make sure win is taken 2x a day

Thanks for the endorsement Tai. I knew there was a reason I was one of the top members in YOR fan club !!!!!

**bigguy20** · 05-29-2006, 07:03 PM

ok awsome SMAN i will do that then it sounds good to me i will follow that as it seems to be the best way to run that cycle, thanks alot for your advice it was a great help. hopefully ill look something close to you if thats you in your avatar (which i doubt i will but ill try)

**bigguy20** · 05-29-2006, 07:05 PM

one more question, if winny is best taken twice per day it would be painful to inject like that so what if i do half a shot in the am and drink the other half in the pm??

**SMAN12b** · 05-29-2006, 07:09 PM

Edit Duplicate Sorry

**SMAN12b** · 05-29-2006, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by bigguy20

one more question, if winny is best taken twice per day it would be painful to inject like that so what if i do half a shot in the am and drink the other half in the pm??

it would be best twice a day, you can get away with just once. injecting is much ( or at least 17%) better than drinking, if you drink try to adjust for the difference in dose.

How long is your vacation?
are you planning to do PCT while on vacation?

And yes believe it or not , that IS me in my avy. that was my first comp at age 33 when I was still all NATURAL. two whole years before I ever touched AAS

Glad to help

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SMAN

**bigguy20** · 05-29-2006, 07:26 PM

wow thats awsome man you must be looking even thicker now too...anyways yeah ill be on vacation for 10 days in disneyworld!! lol and i will toss my nolvadex and clomid in another container if i have to. it shouldnt be of any problem for me.
thanks for all the help youve given me man it was greatly appreciated.

**SMAN12b** · 05-29-2006, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by bigguy20

wow thats awsome man you must be looking even thicker now too...anyways yeah ill be on vacation for 10 days in disneyworld!! lol and i will toss my nolvadex and clomid in another container if i have to. it shouldnt be of any problem for me.
thanks for all the help youve given me man it was greatly appreciated.

OK so if you are gonna be gone for 10 days, why don't you run the Test E until the day you leave, then you would have two weeks to start PCT
not the greatest for the Winny thought, but you would hve the benifit of a more stabel test level