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05-30-2006, 06:03 PM #1New Member
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18 y/o running Test E
Age: 18
Height: 6’0
Weight: 200
No prior experience with steroids . I believe I understand the risks of using gear and being underage (or better yet, underdeveloped). But with that said, my current height suits me fine to be honest. If the only risk added is the growth plates closing, I believe I’m willing to take that chance. I plan on running a 12 week cycle of TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE , which I am told is the best choice for a beginning user.
I have my diet in check, eating 6 meals a day with a sufficient amount of protein. Lean meats only with the carbs coming from primarily potatoes and brown rice. I am not very experienced as a weight lifter but have established solid goals and a good routine.
Please discuss what you think about this, I want to hear all opinions.
Thanx
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05-30-2006, 06:09 PM #2RETIRED VET
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Well at least it sounds like you have your diet in check, but there are 2 parts man, and weight lifting is the other, i would wait a good 2 years or more to get a solid program set then you will get much closer to your natural potential. I had the option to start gear at 18 and im so glad that i waited.. i made huge gains just training natural that no one would ever believe that i was natural. Its not worth the risks without significant knowledge in these 3 areas 1. Diet....2. Weight training....and 3. Anabolics....good luck with your choice tho..
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05-30-2006, 06:09 PM #3
do u understand the effects it may have on ur hpta, and reproductive system in general...do u have pct planned out...
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05-30-2006, 06:12 PM #4Originally Posted by lucabratzi
totaly agree you may have stopped growing on the outside but you have far from stopped growing on the inside. why would you take the chance of possible ****ing yourself up for life ?no open source posting
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05-30-2006, 06:21 PM #5New Member
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Originally Posted by CaptainDominate
Originally Posted by lucabratzi
Originally Posted by stocky121
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05-30-2006, 06:33 PM #6
lifejunkie, I respect you for being mature about this and open to ideas. Too many teens get on here and say something like "i need to get big. my boy said dbol is best, how much should I run and how long. am i ready? doesnt matter, im gonna do it anyway." And then gets all pissed when ppl ask for stats and suggests eating for a change (he didnt want to hear or accept this).
Test e is a good beginner choice, but I would wait a couple more years bro. You are already a pretty big guy (assuming bodyfat is low). I say get all your training in check and give your body a little more time. Keep on researching in the meantime.
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05-30-2006, 06:35 PM #7RETIRED VET
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Thanks for your response, I will honestly take this into consideration. It’s just really hard to not use gear to be honest. I go to the gym everyday and the guys I see really making the gains and looking good are the guys that are using gear. But obviously I’m having some second thoughts on using or I wouldn’t have posted this.
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05-30-2006, 06:45 PM #8Originally Posted by lifejunkie
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05-30-2006, 06:45 PM #9New Member
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Powerliftmike, CaptainDominate, much appreciated.
I think after taking all of what was said here into consideration I’m going to wait. I’ll continue on my cutting phase until I reach my desired body fat then redirect my efforts to adding on the lean mass, naturally. Thanks for the advice; this may have saved me a lot of hardship down the road.
littlemantc,
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05-30-2006, 06:53 PM #10RETIRED VET
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No problem man, theres tons of help and info on this board...keep researching and just a thought but it is possible to cut bodyfat and still gain mass, i would keep your carbs moderate through good sources like rice, potatoes, oatmeal, and loads of protein man, you really need to eat big, try something like this for size and BF reduction for your stats
Total carbs per day=300
Protein=300-350grams
Train heavy man and consistent, plus eating clean carbs can help you lose the bodyfat while putting on some size too...good luck man
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05-30-2006, 07:01 PM #11
i think its good that ur actually takin our advice...most would just be like fck it and start anyway...there is so much info out there. im glad i waited as long as i did before i cycled....i actually wish i would have waited another year or two...at 18 you can gain so much naturally u dont need juice..just a solid diet...
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05-30-2006, 07:04 PM #12Junior Member
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Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha
*wipes a tear off his eye*
Man you made my side hurt laughing so much, you actually think your GROWTH PLATES is your biggest problem doing gear underage?
You will alter your personality permanently by doing AAS underage. Your brain and CNS is still developing, introducing high levels of androgens is gonna turn you into a more violent, more impulsive, more prone to alcohol and drug abuse person, until the day you die.
Can you spell severe emotional development disturbance?Last edited by kungen1234; 05-30-2006 at 07:07 PM.
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05-30-2006, 07:07 PM #13Originally Posted by kungen1234
what????
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05-30-2006, 07:08 PM #14Junior Member
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All empirical evidence along with studies done on adolescent hamsters and rats confirm that adolescents introduced to high levels of androgens alter them forever. They become more impulsive, violent, suicidal and prone to alcohol abuse.
EDIT: that sticks with them their entire life even after being off androgens since their adolescent years.
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05-30-2006, 10:59 PM #15
Don't forget that you will still grow until age of 21 or so, not only in height but also your organs(liver, heart,reproduction system too) i have been working out for almost 8 years (27 years of age now) just been taking legal gears and I have great physic..so wait until age 21 or so because your produce enough test by naturely...lift hard, eat well, and speed....
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05-31-2006, 07:45 AM #16Originally Posted by kungen1234
post the studies.... not everybody turns out like this....i know people that have started out at 16 and they have turned out totally well adjusted...stupid, but well adjusted....its all in the person bro
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05-31-2006, 07:54 AM #17Originally Posted by kungen1234
how can rat's and hamster's been prone to these ?no open source posting
keep all source request's to PM'S please
someone once said to me a clever man learn's by his own mistake's. But a wise man learn's by the mistake's of other people.
detailed detection timesat least 45 day's active use and 100 posts for a source checkunsure about the rule's please read up
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SOURCE CHECKS CLICK HERE
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05-31-2006, 08:53 AM #18Junior Member
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Originally Posted by stocky121
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05-31-2006, 09:06 AM #19Originally Posted by powerliftmike
kungen1234 - All empirical evidence along with studies done on adolescent hamsters and rats confirm that adolescents introduced to high levels of androgens alter them forever. They become more impulsive, violent, suicidal and prone to alcohol abuse.
EDIT: that sticks with them their entire life even after being off androgens since their adolescent years.
M.
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05-31-2006, 09:09 AM #20Junior Member
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Originally Posted by mwolffey
Im talking about the group as a whole(teenagers who abuse AAS).
Fact is, rate of suicide, homicide, violence and alcohol abuse goes waaay up in teenagers who abuse AAS versus teenagers who dont.
Fact is also in the teenage years your central nervoussystem is still in development, AAS have a profound effect upon the CNS specifically the diencephalon and part of the brain called hippocampus. It is proven in rats that these changes made by androgens when the brain and CNS is developing persist for the rest of the subjects life.
http://www.medscimonit.com/pub/vol_11/no_4/4259.pdf
http://publications.uu.se/theses/abs...xsql?dbid=1596 (press the fulltext link)
This information is based on the research by the former eastgerman government and its secret doping-program. They conclude that the earlier in life they began administering AAS the worse off the athletes life in general turned out later during followup. Worst group was young women(as young as 12,13 and 14 years old). Yes, the ethics and morals of the methods are queastionable, but hey so is communism.
http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/43/7/1262#F1
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05-31-2006, 09:10 AM #21Junior Member
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Originally Posted by magic32
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05-31-2006, 09:22 AM #22Associate Member
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well if your bf low , diet in check, solid 2 yrs training, gym head. pct in check ,id say go it if the gears ready . but i dont know you and your goals so id say wait .
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05-31-2006, 09:31 AM #23Originally Posted by stocky121
I see rats staggering out of the bar every night going on about how they did steroids when they were younger...maybe hes on to something
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05-31-2006, 09:41 AM #24Originally Posted by kungen1234
The first is on adult animals and can’t be translated to human youths. The third is on prepubescent females, and completely irrelevant.
The second, however, finally comes close to the demographic in question citing young men (still not adolescent), as young men are generally considered to be men in their 20’s. Nevertheless, it primarily discusses aas mixed with other illicit drugs creating spurious evidence at best. After all the concessions I’ve made above, it turns out that absolutely no sound conclusions were ever reached. This is nothing more than a poorly designed and failed experiment orchestrated to lash out at aas and further the present media driven stereotypes. The bulk of which is below:
A new group of anabolic androgenic steroid (AAS) users has developed during the last two decades. This group consists primarily of young men interested in improving their physical appearance. Within this group, AAS are sometimes used together with other illicit drugs, alcohol and nicotine. Brutal and violent crimes have been committed under the influence of AAS {unjustifiable conclusion}, possibly because of AAS psychiatric side effects, ranging from increased aggression and psychosis to depression. Unfortunately, the biochemical mechanisms behind these effects are poorly understood.
The behavioural and biochemical results found in this thesis, support the hypothesis that use of AAS might lead to [crap…I MIGHT miss the toilet on my next trip, but I doubt it…this is dribble} the development of dependence and may induce changes in the brain leading to disinhibitory behaviours.
Sorry!
M.
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05-31-2006, 12:50 PM #25Originally Posted by stocky121
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05-31-2006, 12:58 PM #26
life junkie do you have AIM? Im in the same boat u are but i did them BEFORE i asked on these forums, let me know if you have any questions about gains and phycological experiences i have had
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05-31-2006, 01:08 PM #27Anabolic Member
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