DNP thoughts

[masterjuice]

wat do u guys think about dnp for fat burning?? is it worth the real bad sides i hear about it. anyone had expericene with it? any help would be cool

[taiboxa]

its great if u use it properly
200mg ed is fun for 3 weeks. . . very lil sides and very effective fat loss
i can say i have gone up to 1.5g ed and that was ABSOLUT HELL

[masterjuice]

bc i can get some but i hear it can mess u up? does it matter if ur on cycle, off or during pct? bc i wanna run a 6 week cutting cycle in september and would dnp be better then clen?

[taiboxa]

bc i can get some but i hear it can mess u up? does it matter if ur on cycle, off or during pct? bc i wanna run a 6 week cutting cycle in september and would dnp be better then clen?

DO NOT DO IT DURING PCT
dnp is way more effective than clen but its very dangerous and makes u feel like absolute poop

[Homeguard]

..............i have gone up to 1.5g ed and that was ABSOLUT HELL

[taiboxa]

oh yeah.. kids do not try this at home ><

[masterjuice]

wat about on or off cycle? im just real interested in it and no one i know really took it before

[taiboxa]

wat about on or off cycle? im just real interested in it and no one i know really took it before

ur work outs are shit
i did it on cycle
but i think it really doesnt matter

[masterjuice]

oo tru thanks.... good results?

[taiboxa]

oo tru thanks.... good results?

deceant dropped from 280 to 240 in 3 weeks
felt like shit and str dropped from repping 315 like nothing to struggling w/ 275

[G-1000]

I dont see the need for such a strong fat burner. If you do your cardio and your diet is in check you can lean down and cut up in 6-10 weeks.

[taiboxa]

I dont see the need for such a strong fat burner. If you do your cardio and your diet is in check you can lean down and cut up in 6-10 weeks.

very true.. i ran it kuz i could.. i have issues ><

[G-1000]

very true.. i ran it kuz i could.. i have issues ><

I thought dnp woul dbe great to ripp up. Till i ran it. My muscles went flat my eye sight went blury and i smelled real bad. just not worth it.


Oh my eye sight os not the same as it was still. That was 3 weeks ago.

[masterjuice]

dam thats crazy, maybe ill think about it a lil more. bc i dont wanna lose much strengh

[taiboxa]

I thought dnp woul dbe great to ripp up. Till i ran it. My muscles went flat my eye sight went blury and i smelled real bad. just not worth it.


Oh my eye sight os not the same as it was still. That was 3 weeks ago.

yes that is the worst part is the glycogen depletion.. tottaly counteracts all its positive benefits

[SwoleCat]

If you want to sit around all day sweating like a Priest at a little league baseball game, be anti-social and look like you're on crack, get all bloated, feel like shit, risk death, etc., then go for it.

I'd personally choose a sound nutritional approach and get up off the (__!__) and do cardio, thus making it a LIFESTYLE not a quick fix.

~SC~

[masterjuice]

i got my cardio in check its just i can never get dam abbs, unless i stopped eating for like a month lol

[G-1000]

I said that same thing.

I looked over what i was doing i found a lot wrong with my diet. I have been doing cardio and my new diet for the last 6 weeks. I all ready have my abs showing and in 1 to 2 more weeks then will be full.

[SwoleCat]

i got my cardio in check its just i can never get dam abbs, unless i stopped eating for like a month lol

That's not true, you're just not executing an impeccable plan of attack for the period of time needed to showcase the physique you desire.

As well, DNP is not going to all of a sudden take you to where you wish to be, it's not a miracle at all! After DNP, then what? You are going to have to learn how to eat/train/diet/cardio/etc., to keep that look IF you were to obtain it, so it's best to learn all that shit now!

~SC~

[masterjuice]

yea tru i could def tighten up my diet

[goose]

its great if u use it properly
200mg ed is fun for 3 weeks. . . very lil sides and very effective fat loss
i can say i have gone up to 1.5g ed and that was ABSOLUT HELL

Agreed low dose of DNP is very effective at 200mg-400mg,I dont see a need to dose more,just cycle it longer.DNP is safer than clen,Interestingly, one medical theory on a health ADVANTAGE of DNP is that the slight increase in thermogenic temperature simulates the fever a body induces during a viral attack. The body increases itsheat to protect organs but kill viruses, and some theorize that DNP can do the same thing, thus killing viruses in the body. In this mechanism, DNP may have an immune-enhancing effect.

[taiboxa]

Agreed low dose of DNP is very effective at 200mg-400mg,I dont see a need to dose more,just cycle it longer.DNP is safer than clen,Interestingly, one medical theory on a health ADVANTAGE of DNP is that the slight increase in thermogenic temperature simulates the fever a body induces during a viral attack. The body increases itsheat to protect organs but kill viruses, and some theorize that DNP can do the same thing, thus killing viruses in the body. In this mechanism, DNP may have an immune-enhancing effect.

but i feel the lack of sleep totally offsets this attribute

[SwoleCat]

To me it's one of the stupidest things one could take.

Just my opinion.

~SC~

[G-1000]

I gave it a shoot.


Not worth it at all. I will doo my cardio and keep a diet in check. So it takes a few more weeks longer.

[AleX-69]

hm.. i have heard some things about DNP [even when used at dosaged up to 400mg] so i don't think it is worth taking it:

1) DNP can cause your vison to be negatively affected. There are reports of people using DNP who lost their eye-sight completly! [mostly women]

2) it is rumored that DNP has a chance to alter your DNA and therefore increasing your chance to have handicaped children...

3) it is possible that DNP causes cancer

sure one might say that these points are not proven right but for me it would be an uncalculated risk as long as it is not proven false! Just imagine your girlfriend giving birth to a handicaped child.. I know for sure that you would think about your past DNP usage 24/7 and if there is a link to your defected child. And all that for some lost lbs of fat which you would have lost anyway if you would have gotten your lazy a s s on the treadmill 2 times a day. no way!!

I may be exaggerating a little bit here but i personally think DNP should not be taken lightly...Think about it a minute bro.

[MatrixGuy]

Agreed low dose of DNP is very effective at 200mg-400mg,I dont see a need to dose more,just cycle it longer.DNP is safer than clen,Interestingly, one medical theory on a health ADVANTAGE of DNP is that the slight increase in thermogenic temperature simulates the fever a body induces during a viral attack. The body increases itsheat to protect organs but kill viruses, and some theorize that DNP can do the same thing, thus killing viruses in the body. In this mechanism, DNP may have an immune-enhancing effect.

I would never of thought DNP was safer than clen? DNP scares me but i can happily use clen.

[taiboxa]

To me it's one of the stupidest things one could take.

Just my opinion.

~SC~

oddly enough i aggre.. and i feel the same about clen.

[SwoleCat]

I don't agree with clen being more dangerous than DNP.

Clen is made for medicinal purposes as an asthma medication. DNP is not made for human consumption at all, so that comparison is whack.

~SC~

[HURRICANEl87]

well if your looking for the compound that will burn the most fat that deff is DNP not even cloze. But it will make u feel the worst also. i agree basically kiss your social life away for your cycle .u get a bad smell and u sweat all the time and feel tired but if u do it for 2 weeks then come off ,its managable (atleast in my book).i was expecting worse ( just finished a dnp cycle). I dont know bout long term effects , but short term dnp has the most sides. I was fine @ 500 mg but when i tired 750 that was 2 much . if i doit again i will do 500 for 2 weeks nothing over that

[masterjuice]

tru, ill prbly just stick to clen bc the sides of dnp are a little too much

[Homeguard]

DO NOT DO IT DURING PCT
......................

Why do you say that tai??

Was going to do 500 per day for 10 days during my pct month.

Let us know why not if you get the time

Cheers mate

[taiboxa]

Why do you say that tai??

Was going to do 500 per day for 10 days during my pct month.

Let us know why not if you get the time

Cheers mate

during pct u are at your most fragile state... taking something that ramps up ur metabolic rate and depletes you of glycogen/energy kan really hinder ones ability to retain gains acquired during cycle.

[goose]

hm.. i have heard some things about DNP [even when used at dosaged up to 400mg] so i don't think it is worth taking it:

1) DNP can cause your vison to be negatively affected. There are reports of people using DNP who lost their eye-sight completly! [mostly women]

2) it is rumored that DNP has a chance to alter your DNA and therefore increasing your chance to have handicaped children...

3) it is possible that DNP causes cancer

sure one might say that these points are not proven right but for me it would be an uncalculated risk as long as it is not proven false! Just imagine your girlfriend giving birth to a handicaped child.. I know for sure that you would think about your past DNP usage 24/7 and if there is a link to your defected child. And all that for some lost lbs of fat which you would have lost anyway if you would have gotten your lazy a s s on the treadmill 2 times a day. no way!!

I may be exaggerating a little bit here but i personally think DNP should not be taken lightly...Think about it a minute bro.

First thing,I don`t advise people using DNP as 98% of the people on this board do not need to use this Dangerous drug to reach the goals they have in mind,as swole said diet and cardio are the best.When you loose weight fast with DNP you can have a rebound effect very fast and gain 50% of the weight back.Alex I`m a fan of your posts,your a very Educated guy,plus my girlfriend is German.I have to Disagree with the above.

1.DNP was banned in the 1930`s because of 1% of the studies Developed cataracts ONLY FEMALES no men

2.No way that DNP could alter your DNA(PLEASE post the study)Lot`s of positive things about DNPinitrophenol is remarkable for its absence of effect on the cardio-vascular system...dinitrophenol is absolutely devoid of toxicity for the heart.Dinitrophenol has almost no action on the blood cholesterol.


3.quite the contarty, Not only has not a single test found it to be carcinogenic, but test after tyest after test find that DNP actually ATTACKS cancer cells, and helps anti-cancer medications work better, and helps anti-leukemia medications work without destroying cell DNA, and suppresses tumor growth by 20-50%.DNP is Ames negative, and does not promote tumors. See for yourself at http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/

This is a quote from a DR in cancer research.

"Absence of Crabtree effect in human melanoma cells adapted to growth at low pH: reversal by respiratory inhibitors." Burd R, Wachsberger PR, Biaglow JE, Wahl ML, Lee I, Leeper DB. Departments of Radiation Oncology, Kimmel Cancer Center, Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107, USA. Check this out—DNP actually helps make melanoma tumors easier to attack by increasing ratio of oxygen consumption to lactic acid production, while glycolysis remains the same. "Therefore, tumor acute acidification and oxygenation can be achieved by exposure…"


Now dont make me scare the guys here with clen,as the studies are Horrifying on your heart,not fiction but fact,I remember the heart pains I use to get,not nice.

[taiboxa]

First thing,I don`t advise people using DNP as 98% of the people on this board do not need to use this Dangerous drug to reach the goals they have in mind,as swole said diet and cardio are the best.When you loose weight fast with DNP you can have a rebound effect very fast and gain 50% of the weight back.Alex I`m a fan of your posts,your a very Educated guy,plus my girlfriend is German.I have to Disagree with the above.

1.DNP was banned in the 1930`s because of 1% of the studies Developed cataracts ONLY FEMALES no men

2.No way that DNP could alter your DNA(PLEASE post the study)Lot`s os positive things about DNPinitrophenol is remarkable for its absence of effect on the cardio-vascular system...dinitrophenol is absolutely devoid of toxicity for the heart.Dinitrophenol has almost no action on the blood cholesterol.


3.quite the contarty, Not only has not a single test found it to be carcinogenic, but test after tyest after test find that DNP actually ATTACKS cancer cells, and helps anti-cancer medications work better, and helps anti-leukemia medications work without destroying cell DNA, and suppresses tumor growth by 20-50%.DNP is Ames negative, and does not promote tumors. See for yourself at http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/

This is a quote from a DR in cancer research.

"Absence of Crabtree effect in human melanoma cells adapted to growth at low pH: reversal by respiratory inhibitors." Burd R, Wachsberger PR, Biaglow JE, Wahl ML, Lee I, Leeper DB. Departments of Radiation Oncology, Kimmel Cancer Center, Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107, USA. Check this out—DNP actually helps make melanoma tumors easier to attack by increasing ratio of oxygen consumption to lactic acid production, while glycolysis remains the same. "Therefore, tumor acute acidification and oxygenation can be achieved by exposure…"


Now dont make me scare the guys here with clen,as the studies are Horrifying on your heart,not fiction but fact,I remember the heart pains I use to get,not nice.

wow ANTI CANCER! im runnin that shit year round now!

[kungen1234]

If you react good to it then by all means run it.
I never got bad smell, blurry vision or extreme sweating, tiredness or even lost much strength down at the gym while I was on DNP.

I did however get an upset stomach, alot of farting. I also found that at 200mg i barely noticed any difference at all physically or mentally, yet my metabolism should be up by atleast 30%. At 400mg I actually felt hot after a meal, and the stomach got alittle upset, no blurry vision, no fatigue, no bad smell. Then I upped to dose to 600mg and the shit hit me like a brickwall, tiredness, extreme sweating, insomnia, no blurry vision, no bad smell, worse stomach etc.


In other words,I can and I WILL run DNP again at 400mg/ED since I found it to be the upper limit for comfortability on DNP.

[thebison]

yes 400mgs is a great way to take it i did 600 and that shit was like hell. 200 felt to weak try 400. just make sure u work your way up and dotn jumpstart on 400. everyone react's diffrent.

[kungen1234]

Oh yes, start low. I ran 200mg/ED for 4 days before I upped the dose to 400mg, then I ran 400mg/ed for 4 days until I tried 600mg/ED, needless to say I quickly went back down to 400mg after one day of 600mg.

[kungen1234]

I don't agree with clen being more dangerous than DNP.

Clen is made for medicinal purposes as an asthma medication. DNP is not made for human consumption at all, so that comparison is whack.

~SC~

Well there's several ways of looking at it. The lethal dose and theuraputical dose of DNP are very close to one another, thus making it riskier to take than clen. However its effects on the body and the "damage" done may yeild Clen as more dangerous.

Risks vs Damage done at effective doses

[Homeguard]

during pct u are at your most fragile state... taking something that ramps up ur metabolic rate and depletes you of glycogen/energy kan really hinder ones ability to retain gains acquired during cycle.

Seems logical when you put it like that.

Cheers tai.

[AleX-69]

First thing,I don`t advise people using DNP as 98% of the people on this board do not need to use this Dangerous drug to reach the goals they have in mind,as swole said diet and cardio are the best.When you loose weight fast with DNP you can have a rebound effect very fast and gain 50% of the weight back.Alex I`m a fan of your posts,your a very Educated guy,plus my girlfriend is German.I have to Disagree with the above.

1.DNP was banned in the 1930`s because of 1% of the studies Developed cataracts ONLY FEMALES no men

2.No way that DNP could alter your DNA(PLEASE post the study)Lot`s of positive things about DNPinitrophenol is remarkable for its absence of effect on the cardio-vascular system...dinitrophenol is absolutely devoid of toxicity for the heart.Dinitrophenol has almost no action on the blood cholesterol.


3.quite the contarty, Not only has not a single test found it to be carcinogenic, but test after tyest after test find that DNP actually ATTACKS cancer cells, and helps anti-cancer medications work better, and helps anti-leukemia medications work without destroying cell DNA, and suppresses tumor growth by 20-50%.DNP is Ames negative, and does not promote tumors. See for yourself at http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/

This is a quote from a DR in cancer research.

"Absence of Crabtree effect in human melanoma cells adapted to growth at low pH: reversal by respiratory inhibitors." Burd R, Wachsberger PR, Biaglow JE, Wahl ML, Lee I, Leeper DB. Departments of Radiation Oncology, Kimmel Cancer Center, Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107, USA. Check this out—DNP actually helps make melanoma tumors easier to attack by increasing ratio of oxygen consumption to lactic acid production, while glycolysis remains the same. "Therefore, tumor acute acidification and oxygenation can be achieved by exposure…"


Now dont make me scare the guys here with clen,as the studies are Horrifying on your heart,not fiction but fact,I remember the heart pains I use to get,not nice.

Thnx for the nice words goose!
Well and thx even more for clarifiying some things i wasn't completly sure of.
But nevertheless there are some things i like to add..

1) I knew that all reported cases of catracts occured in women but i read some feedback of guys from other message boards that they had definatly problems with their eyesight. Even gsxxr had problems, and i am 100% sure he knows how to use DNP.. So in short even if you don't go blind, I believe there is a small chance of damaging your eyesight...

2) hm... you might want to take a look at this

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinitrophenol

so it is in german but i will translate the most important part:

"Dinitrophenol is classified as carciogenic, embryotoxic and capeable to alter someones DNA."

you may aswell read this article

http://www.cyberiron.com/drugs/dinitrophenol.html

it is in english. So no probs here...
On the other hand i know that there has been a study where mice where exposed to DNP for 6 months and no cancer cells were found after dessection.
Moreover i know of one person who tried to use DNP as cancer treatment, but had no success.. ( http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...ncer/icht.html ) + Dr. Shantana who claims to treat cancer sucessfully with the use of DNP, but once again there is no evidence given that DNP is in fact usefull as anti-cancer agent ( http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...ncer/icht.html )


so the point i am trying to get across is in fact that there is a possibility of DNP to cause cancer and an altered DNA and maybe birthdefects [One study reported an increased incidence of stillborn animals and increased pup mortality in the offspring of animals exposed to 2,4-dintrophenol by gavage. http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/dinitrop.html ].
I am not saying that these are all proven facts, but as long as there is a slight possiblity of these things beeing true, i am not willing to take the risk, and therefore i advise anyone thinking about future DNP usage to think about it CAREFULLY.

Well that is it basically... and primo ftw