4th cycle suggestions?

**need2bhuge** · 06-01-2006, 06:51 PM

Hey guys what's up? I am going to start my 4th cycle in a few months and I am starting to gather all my supplies. I was thinking a test/tren /d-bol cycle with a 4week jumpstart with anadrol . My first cycle was deca alone at a mere 400mgs a week...I know, what the hell was I thinking?

Anyway, my second was test cyp at 500mg/wk and deca at 600mg/wk and my third was omindren at 750wk, d-bol 45mg/day, tren 400wk. I never really ate a lot on my cycles so the gains I made were pretty solid, usually 10-14lbs. This next cycle I'm gonna bite the bullet and really eat to grow like I should have done from the start!

I was thinking of running sustanon at 1250/wk 14weeks, d-bol up to 45mgs/day, and tren at about 600/wk. Any suggestions on dosages, intervals, or ANYTHING would be appreciated. I will take letro during the cycle and tamox/clomid PCT. Should I throw in IGF-lr3 at 80mcg/day for 30 days...will that help me a lot?

Stats: 22(23 in july) 6'2" 220lbs, 10-14% bodyfat, arms 18", chest 50", quads 26"...bench 365x1, squat 405x2. I have been training for 7 years

I really need to put my diet under the microscope for this cycle...how fast should I up my calories? I was leaning towards 300cals/day for the first week and another 300/day for the second and so on until I reach about 4000cals/day. I will try to keep 40% protein 40%carbs 20%fat. Again, I am open to suggestions

**C_Bino** · 06-01-2006, 10:35 PM

For diet advice definitely hit the diet forum. I really think you need it considering your stats and cycle experience. No offense, just being honest.
As for the cycle, you want to run sust, tren , d-bol and jumpstart with drol? D-bol is your jumpstart bro. Stick with d-bol since you have done it before but never done tren, this way you will know how tren effects you and not ponder whether its the drol or tren.

I would go with:
1-12 Sust 100mg ed
1-8 Tren 75mg ed
1-4 D-bol 40mg ed

**IBdmfkr** · 06-01-2006, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by need2bhuge

I never really ate a lot on my cycles so the gains I made were pretty solid, usually 10-14lbs. This next cycle I'm gonna bite the bullet and really eat to grow like I should have done from the start!

This is what concerns me, I'd get the diet on track for the next few months and see what kind of gains you can acheive naturally with a great diet really dialed in to your goals. Otherwise you will more than likely go back to your old habits after the cycle is finished. JMO.

Btw, I liked Bino's cycle idea for after your Birthday

**need2bhuge** · 06-02-2006, 11:50 AM

Thanks for the advice C Bino aka "Tit Doctor"

I didn't take any offense to the diet suggestion, I know that I should have grown more, and my diet for being on a cycle sucked. I fell into the trap that drugs will do it all when that is definitley not the case! And IBdmfkr, looking back at my history, that concerns me too. I am going to ramp up my diet starting now and not start a cycle for AT LEAST two months. I know the foods to eat, but I am going to have to research in the diet forum on how quickly to increase caloric intake. If I could kick my own ass I would, for I pretty much wasted all my money on these previous cycles seeing that I ate like a bird...now instead of eating like a bird I kinda look like a shaved one

**C_Bino** · 06-02-2006, 02:41 PM

Good stuff man, a lot of people would be offended and not wanna hear the truth. But hey we all have things to learn and if you are one of those guys who just takes offense and has no balls you are never gonna go anywhere. I LOVE when someone corrects me and says straight up "you are doing this way wrong." We all wanna be the best and if you are gonna get upset when someone possibly with more experience throws advice your way than you arent going anywhere imo.

Get into the diet/training section and beef yourself up.