Ways in reducing pain from Test Prop?

[Swifto]

I've heard about mixing the Test Prop with, Cotten Sead Oil, Grapeseed Oil, B12 and even Deca.....But what about mixing it with Sterile Bac Water?

Anyone done this?

It was a suggestion from Lion...

[AleX-69]

Well there are several ways of reducing prop injection pain. But first:

do you homebrew your prop yourself?

[marcus300]

swifto ive sent you pm,
try cutting it with b12 or other gear your taking

[AleX-69]

in general i wouldn't advise cutting your prop with water..

What you could do:

1) Cut it with injectable B12
2) Filter it in a sterile vial and then cut it with EO, castor oil or grapeseed oil

Question is why do you have prop pain at all?

I know that my homebrewed prop gets painfull at concentraions of 140mg/ml.. As long as i use 100mg/ml with 2% BA and 20%EO rest grapeseed it is virtually painless! A good buddy thinks it is even better than viromone

So my suggetions would be go into detail which ingredients are included in your prop and at what concentrations. five possible reasons for painfull prop injections come to mind:

1) Bad reaction to the used oil (often heard from castor oil)
2) Bad reaction to the carrier used (sometimes heard from BB)
3) High BA concentration (higher than 5%)
4) contaminated prop powder was used and not filtered
5) concentration is above 140mg/ml

RG

[Swifto]

in general i wouldn't advise cutting your prop with water..

What you could do:

1) Cut it with injectable B12
2) Filter it in a sterile vial and then cut it with EO, castor oil or grapeseed oil

Question is why do you have prop pain at all?

I know that my homebrewed prop gets painfull at concentraions of 140mg/ml.. As long as i use 100mg/ml with 2% BA and 20%EO rest grapeseed it is virtually painless! A good buddy thinks it is even better than viromone

So my suggetions would be go into detail which ingredients are included in your prop and at what concentrations. five possible reasons for painfull prop injections come to mind:

1) Bad reaction to the used oil (often heard from castor oil)
2) Bad reaction to the carrier used (sometimes heard from BB)
3) High BA concentration (higher than 5%)
4) contaminated prop powder was used and not filtered
5) concentration is above 140mg/ml

RG

Its a well known UGL. Think of....The UK and being British. And...A large, fire breathing dragon....?!

Why not? BOLDS

[xderekx]

Its a well known UGL. Think of....The UK and being British. And...A large, fire breathing dragon....?!

Why not? BOLDS

lol i'm running the same prop right now bro. i am in my 4th week. pain was horrific the first few pokes into virgin muscle...now, it barely bothers me besides some occasional soreness to the touch.

in case you were wondering, i'm running 75mgs ED

[brolicscholar]

I'm experiencing the same pain from the same brand prop, I have cottonseed oil but it has natural flavors in it, wok oil, does any one know whether I can use it to cut the prop or does the oil have to be plain?

[AleX-69]

@swifto

steroid molecules are non-polar and will not dissolve in a polar liquid (i.e. water). Steroids will dissolve in non-polar liquids (alcohol, oils, etc.).
Moreover water dosen't mix to well with oil so basically you would have a hormone containing oil soulution in your vial AND water... i bet it would be difficult to dose accuratley now

Plus, there is the pain factor...when the steroid comes out of the oil depot, it crystallizes, and therefore causes pain. Esters (i.e. acetate, propionate, phenylpropionate, cypionate, etc) are added to the steroids to increase their soluability in the oil and to slow the speed of their release into the blood stream...this minimizes the crystallzation, and therefore lessens the pain...
Therefore water shortens the release time of steroids thus causing more pain - but initially you tried to avoid that..

Steroid bases on the other hand (no ester) can be used with a water solution...

[AleX-69]

Well this famous UG lab is also famous for a very high BA concentration.. around 10%. That is what i have heard at least..

Soultion would be to filter your gear plus an equal amount of oil [castor, grapeseed,...] in a sterile vial.. Let it sit for 7days and then you are good to go..

[AleX-69]

@brolicscholar

naw... you can't simply put some oil in your vials...
buy a industrial manufactured oil [grapeseed is my favorite] and filter [whatman 0.2 or 0.4] your gear plus an equal amount of oil in a sterile vial.
Let it sit for approx 7 days (to allow the BA to kill all bacteria in the soulution) and then inject...

Keep in mind that your final solution will have only half the concentration of your base solution (i.e. 50mg/ml) so you have to inject twice as much.

[brolicscholar]

thnx, just ordered the filter and cottonseed oil from ARR

[aaronswt84]

you can cut water based stuff like winny with Bactro water to ease the pain right? i know with the oils ive used b12 worked great

[C_Bino]

Take it like a man Swifto my friend. lol

[AleX-69]

you can cut water based stuff like winny with Bactro water to ease the pain right? i know with the oils ive used b12 worked great

yes and yes

[aaronswt84]

thanks alex