Idiots in gym will sell anything to anybody, need help..

**stuball** · 06-02-2006, 04:31 AM

My friend in the gym who is a trainer and is in amazing shape he's 47 y/o about 5/7 165 pounds, very very low body fat, 10 % , cut the fvck up, almost 20 years training, and diet is insane also, but at 47 how much more can he grow at that age without help, he wants to get vascular and put on about 10 to 15 pounds, now these fu#k heads in the gym, give him a vial of enan a vial of deca , ( amps of primo ?? ) And d-bol and winny,, yes its his first cycle, i told him a month ago, stick with a test , and maybe d-bol 40 mgs per day for 4 weeks run the test 250-300 twice a week, he dosent even know the dosage of any thing, so in about an hour i gotta meet him check out his gear, give him some 18g to pull and 23g to shoot, now he will listen to what i say, because he was pissed when i told him that one vial of test is not enough ( if it's 10 ml ) and they sold you shit you should not be useing your first cycle. Now the question, is it safe for a newbie to run d-bol 40mgs a day 4 weeks testcyp 300mgs 2 times a week and deca 200mgs 2 times a week, stop the deca, 8 weeks into 12 week cycle... i dont know much about primo, but im gonna tell him to hold off on it and also the winny.. question two what if he ran the the winny at the end of the cycle with every thing else, what negitive things can happen...And i know nothing about primo, so i will do some research on it...and he dose have nolvadex , witch he started taking with the d bol, and i told him a lot of people hold off untill they see gyno, i also have clomid, if needed..Any help would be great..Thanks

**TheSentinal** · 06-02-2006, 04:35 AM

The best help you can give him is this website. He can find out everything he needs to know.

**stocky121** · 06-02-2006, 04:39 AM

i think with his age in mind he will have amazing results with test only.

show him this site

**Booz** · 06-02-2006, 04:41 AM

ditto the abouv mate get him on here b4 he does something stupid...........

**stuball** · 06-02-2006, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by stocky121

i think with his age in mind he will have amazing results with test only.

show him this site

He's one of those guys that knows nothing about computers, so that impossible i already tried to get him to do it, so what ive learned from you guys i will pass on, second thing is the gear he got he mentioned one name and i heard that some times it says deca on the vial and its cyp or something else ( A*** ) so im bringing my camera and ill try to post picks, thanks guys..peace

**Booz** · 06-02-2006, 05:07 AM

i know the one your talkin about mate...tell him to give that shat back.......

**stuball** · 06-02-2006, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by Booz

i know the one your talkin about mate...tell him to give that shat back.......

I knew you would all i herd is horrible sh!t, about it, im going to the gym now, and hopefully he brings it, and the other stuff, then i will post pics, thanks booz...You guys rule

**farrebarre** · 06-02-2006, 05:45 AM

my first cycle was sust, dbol and deca , sure im not proud of it, with the info i got now i would def have done a test e only cycle for a first cycle, but it is not impossible, its not like his going to die or anything, but imo he will get more out of juicing in the long run if he start of with test only and then add something new the next cycle and something else the third cycle and so on

**Pinum** · 06-02-2006, 07:15 AM

At that age he could of went to a life extension place like Oasis and got some advice and legal test. That said at his age he needs to watch things that could enlarge his prostate. Also, how's his hair line and his blood pressure? Personally, I would recommend the Test and Deca and watch his water retention. Will not get him that cut but a good basic starter cycle and he can see how his body reacts. He should go get ome blood work done to get his base line values so he can see how well he rebounds. Just my opinion though.

**crash187ct** · 06-02-2006, 07:59 AM

with the length he has already under taken with the deca , no use stopping it now...might as well finish it

**stuball** · 06-02-2006, 09:55 AM

Guys he already started the d-bol, i told him to add the enan 300 mg's twice a week, 12 weeks stop the d-bol after 4, he didnt bring the gear, but wrote down what he had gotten, the enan is ( Q* 250 ) The rest is a bunch of sh!t, that his so called friends unloaded on him, needless to say he is pissed, so hopefully the mex gear is half decent.. I will be back Sun or Mon, and tell you how hes fellin.. Thanks guys you not only helped me but are helping others to....Peace