My friend in the gym who is a trainer and is in amazing shape he's 47 y/o about 5/7 165 pounds, very very low body fat, 10 % , cut the fvck up, almost 20 years training, and diet is insane also, but at 47 how much more can he grow at that age without help, he wants to get vascular and put on about 10 to 15 pounds, now these fu#k heads in the gym, give him a vial of enan a vial of deca, ( amps of primo ?? ) And d-bol and winny,, yes its his first cycle, i told him a month ago, stick with a test , and maybe d-bol 40 mgs per day for 4 weeks run the test 250-300 twice a week, he dosent even know the dosage of any thing, so in about an hour i gotta meet him check out his gear, give him some 18g to pull and 23g to shoot, now he will listen to what i say, because he was pissed when i told him that one vial of test is not enough ( if it's 10 ml ) and they sold you shit you should not be useing your first cycle. Now the question, is it safe for a newbie to run d-bol 40mgs a day 4 weeks testcyp 300mgs 2 times a week and deca 200mgs 2 times a week, stop the deca, 8 weeks into 12 week cycle... i dont know much about primo, but im gonna tell him to hold off on it and also the winny.. question two what if he ran the the winny at the end of the cycle with every thing else, what negitive things can happen...And i know nothing about primo, so i will do some research on it...and he dose have nolvadex, witch he started taking with the d bol, and i told him a lot of people hold off untill they see gyno, i also have clomid, if needed..Any help would be great..Thanks