TEST-E Pain :(

[1006]

hey Guys,

So this is the deal, Im on my 5th week of TEST-E 500mg each time.. the thing is that each time i take it, one week its like really painfull and the pain lasts up till around 5 days, and another time i bearly hurt, or if i take it in the shoulders the left side kills and the right nearly no pain.. is there something i can to to reduce the pain? as it is effecting my training due to the pain!

Thanks

[marcus300]

hey Guys,

So this is the deal, Im on my 5th week of TEST-E 500mg each time.. the thing is that each time i take it, one week its like really painfull and the pain lasts up till around 5 days, and another time i bearly hurt, or if i take it in the shoulders the left side kills and the right nearly no pain.. is there something i can to to reduce the pain? as it is effecting my training due to the pain!

Thanks

How much are you injecting at once?

[1006]

250 left 250 right

[marcus300]

so your putting in 500mg on the same day?
stats please?
cycle history?

[AleX-69]

for the third time today :

Most gear can be painful if

1) There is a very high concentration of BA in it (over 5%)
2) If you don't tolerate the carrier oil well
3) If you don't tolerate BB in high concentrations
4) If you got UG or homebrew gear which wasnt filterd
5) If concentrations go to high

There are possible soulutions to almost all of these problems..

[marcus300]

for the third time today :

Most gear can be painful if

1) There is a very high concentration of BA in it (over 5%)
2) If you don't tolerate the carrier oil well
3) If you don't tolerate BB in high concentrations
4) If you got UG or homebrew gear which wasnt filterd
5) If concentrations go to high

There are possible soulutions to almost all of these problems..

LOL, i havent even got round to answering yet am still amazed with him taking all the 500mg on the same day.

i would also like to add to your list Alex-69, if its a virgin muscle .

[AleX-69]

LOL, i havent even got round to answering yet am still amazed with him taking all the 500mg on the same day.

i would also like to add to your list Alex-69, if its a virgin muscle .

agreed.. on both points

[1006]

im 23 years old
first cycle
first 2 weeks started with 250mg

cant understand why sometimes the pain is so bad i cant lift up one side of my shoulder and the other one will be ok, or the next time not all that much pain..

[marcus300]

Take a look at Alex-69 answer to your pain, also if its your first cycle your muscles are not use to pins being stuck into them so they are going to hurt,

500mg of test e should be shot twice a week 250mg Mon 250mg Thurs, don't pyramid the dose keep it the same and split the 500mg up into 2 shots a week.

[AleX-69]

At first you should inject test e 2 times a week at least.. here is why:

in the first picture you can see the concentration of test if you inject test e only once a week. It is apparent that there are big fluctuations in blood test levels.

[AleX-69]

in the seccond pic you can see what happens if you inject twice a week. Blood levels are much more stable now... vòila!

[1006]

so you telling me that 2 times a week is good right? but i shouldnt do 500mg at a go? also, i keep going with 500mg per week? as i was thinking that last week or 2 i go back down to 250mg so i wont shock my body... dont know if its a stupid idea..

[marcus300]

yes shoot it twice a week at 250mg per shot, dont drop the dose for the last 2 weeks keep the same so the blood levels keep more stable.

[magic32]

so you telling me that 2 times a week is good right? but i shouldnt do 500mg at a go? also, i keep going with 500mg per week? as i was thinking that last week or 2 i go back down to 250mg so i wont shock my body... dont know if its a stupid idea..

That's what we're saying.
Test E 250mgs (twice weekly, every 3.5 days)

For example: Mon morning/Thurs night

Rotate inject sites. Take at least 6 days before hitting the same site twice.

Are you running anything (ancillaries) alongside Test?
What is your PCT?

M.

[1006]

ok then i will take alternate sites left tricep, right tricep, left shoulder, right shoulder.

Winstrol daily also im taking.

PCT:

HCG for sure, and thinking of putting in nolvadex

[1006]

Is it a good pct ?

[*Alex*]

ok then i will take alternate sites left tricep, right tricep, left shoulder, right shoulder.

Winstrol daily also im taking.

PCT:

HCG for sure, and thinking of putting in nolvadex

ha??????? are you site injecting???? you should only inject quads or gluets! an NOTHING ELSE!

[1006]

Whats wrong with tricep and shoulders? how about pct is it good?

[helium3]

hey Guys,

So this is the deal, Im on my 5th week of TEST-E 500mg each time.. the thing is that each time i take it, one week its like really painfull and the pain lasts up till around 5 days, and another time i bearly hurt, or if i take it in the shoulders the left side kills and the right nearly no pain.. is there something i can to to reduce the pain? as it is effecting my training due to the pain!

Thanks

1st stop winging
2nd relax when shooting this will help alot,most newbies myself included tense up the first few times.
3rd get mommy to kiss it better.

[AleX-69]

ha??????? are you site injecting???? you should only inject quads or gluets! an NOTHING ELSE!

i always do delts.. a good buddy swears by biceps..
hell, even my doc does always delts.

you can inject into every muscle you are comfortable with..

Pct is ok.. don't know if you will need HCG at all. Clomid should be sufficient on its own.

[1006]

i think nolvadex is better due to the sides of clomid.. you telling me i dont need HCG? was going to take 2 shots only..

[Tren Bull]

hey Guys,

So this is the deal, Im on my 5th week of TEST-E 500mg each time.. the thing is that each time i take it, one week its like really painfull and the pain lasts up till around 5 days, and another time i bearly hurt, or if i take it in the shoulders the left side kills and the right nearly no pain.. is there something i can to to reduce the pain? as it is effecting my training due to the pain!

Thanks

let me guess bro, you got test e 400 right?

that sh_t had me limping bad.

im not sure there is much you can do... but i suppose you could try diluting it with sterile oil.

youl need to research the process though cause you really dont want to mess up when you're doing it

[Tren Bull]

im 23 years old
first cycle
first 2 weeks started with 250mg

cant understand why sometimes the pain is so bad i cant lift up one side of my shoulder and the other one will be ok, or the next time not all that much pain..

the way i see it, i am sacraficing gains in whatever muscle i shoot up in if my gear is painfull...

and believe me, ive shot up some very painfull gear. only the 400 mg/ml hurt though. even test prop 200 didnt hurt anywhere nearly as bad as the test e and the test blend 400

[1006]

some times it was so bad that i couldnt train! my firend told me he took it, played a soccer match and no pain anymore.. dont understand

[AleX-69]

HCG wouldn't hurt but i wouldn't be necessary either IMO

If you have used clomid in the past and expierenced side effects use nolva by all means.

I always use nolva + tongkat ali and recovery is a breeze.. on the other hand i do mostly short cycles

[1006]

Plus clomid is very hard to get over here.. so i think ill go with nolvadex.. what dosage do you recomend?

[AleX-69]

day1: 80mg
day 2-7: 40mg
8-28: 20mg

that is sufficient for me..

[magic32]

You don’t need to filter the cutting/diluting oil yourself, as Tren alluded, it's quite a process. Just buy sterile oil and double dip, once into your Test, then into the oil. Change pins and shoot. Start with .25 and progress as necessary. You don’t want to add too much because volume can cause pain also.

And, no you don’t need HCG in a Test only cycle’s PCT regimen, but I’d research proper protocol based on what you’ve said thus far.

Lastly, you didn’t mention it, but definitely take some pain killers before lifting, and do a good cardio warm up to help relax the inflamed areas.

M.

[Assapopolis]

www.**************.com

Try the quads and glutes out

Edit: wont let me post the link that has pics for different injection spots.

[AleX-69]

You don’t need to filter the cutting/diluting oil yourself, as Tren alluded, it's quite a process. Just buy sterile oil and double dip, once into your Test, then into the oil.
M.

how long will the sterile oil be sterile that way? moreover what about particles..?...

it is not safe do do as you suggested IMO...

[magic32]

how long will the sterile oil be sterile that way? moreover what about particles..?...

it is not safe do do as you suggested IMO...

Assuming it is in a vial, it will be sterile as long as any other vial would be...indefinitely.

You swab the cap, use a sterile needle and draw. No it's not completely sterile, but nothing that's used is.

According to your opinion there really is no safety. Once the needle is exposed to air it's no longer sterile, once an amp is cracked, once a vial is drawn from, etc.

But we try to maintain as much sterility and saftey as humanly possible.

M.

[AleX-69]

Assuming it is in a vial, ...
M.

then it'd be ok. you didn't made that clear in your initial post.

[magic32]

then it'd be ok. you didn't made that clear in your initial post.

No I think you failed to understand my very clear post.
Because the same protocol would apply for amps, with enhanced sterility/safety (since they're only used once).

M.

[AleX-69]

No I think you failed to understand my very clear post.
M.

seriously if it would have been oh so clear why did i misunderstood you at all

nevertheless no buisness arguing with you..