rest or no rest

**poloblue** · 06-03-2006, 03:38 PM

i cant stop working out at all!!! when i get done with a set i load up more weights and do another set with no rest inbetween sets. my body is not tired at all i just go at it for an hour without a break. b4 my cycle when i used to work out i would be sore the next day now im not sore at all been to the gym five days straight. and ready to go again. if my body is not tired between sets is it ok to keep going or should i take maybe a one minute break inbetween sets. done four injects of test cyp and been on tbol at 50mg ed for 11 days now. this is turning me into a human machine!!!! i cant stop but dont want to mess up my cycle either!!! please advice.. one more thing i am so amped up after an hour of hard training that i run for twenty minutes on the thread mill just to calm myself down. is this ok or will this hinder my gains when they come

**Subydude** · 06-03-2006, 03:45 PM

I'm no expert but I sure you need to rest a little bit between sets.

**Bigmax** · 06-03-2006, 03:47 PM

Guy you sound like you're speed bro......I dont what you're doing as far as cycle.....but this question belongs in the training forum.

**poloblue** · 06-03-2006, 03:50 PM

i tryed to rest but it wouldnt let me

**caddilac** · 06-03-2006, 04:02 PM

at the very least, those 20 mins of cardio at the end of your workout are keeping you from getting your PWO meal as soon as possible

**poloblue** · 06-03-2006, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by caddilac

at the very least, those 20 mins of cardio at the end of your workout are keeping you from getting your PWO meal as soon as possible

i see thanks for the advice

**Bigmax** · 06-03-2006, 04:10 PM

20 mins of cardio isnt bad for you after you've hit weights bro....so dont let that stop you from doing it.

**little_soldier** · 06-03-2006, 04:27 PM

my man u need rest , of course AAS will help increase ur strength but for u to go from set to set with no rest i don't think u r lifiting heavy enough i maybe wrong , also u need at least 1 min of rest between sets to help restore ur energy , i used to think that i can train everyday while on cycle but been told not to train more than 2 days in a row wether u r on cycle or not (body grow during rest) try doing ur cardio in ur off days insted of after ur workout although it is not that bad to do it after workout , i hope i helped with my very little experience

**cfiler** · 06-03-2006, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

20 mins of cardio isnt bad for you after you've hit weights bro....so dont let that stop you from doing it.

Yes it is. Doing cardio right after weights is not a great idea. Split them up. Right after you finish weight training, you need a PWO meal or shake.

**Liftnainez** · 06-03-2006, 04:48 PM

just remeber you grow out of the gym when your resting, not in the gym..

**poloblue** · 06-03-2006, 05:15 PM

thanks for everything. before the cycle i would work out two days on then rest. and yes i am lift very heavy. 45 plates feel like 10lb plates. people are giving me funny looks at the gym they cant stop staring. iam one of the strongest at my gym for 190lbs.

**poloblue** · 06-03-2006, 05:17 PM

from now on i will do my running on my off days. just dont want to lose my new gains

**taiboxa** · 06-03-2006, 06:07 PM

Rest > Training
u dont grow in the gym
i train 3x a week and thats when i get MY BEST GAINS

**Bigmax** · 06-03-2006, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by cfiler

Yes it is. Doing cardio right after weights is not a great idea. Split them up. Right after you finish weight training, you need a PWO meal or shake.

yeah ...ok...

**taiboxa** · 06-03-2006, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

yeah ...ok...

cfiler has a point bro.. pwo nutrition is CRITICAL and doing cardio only prolongs this catabolic state

**guest589745** · 06-03-2006, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

yeah ...ok...

what, you disagree?! lol, you have a lot to learn.

**diamonds** · 06-03-2006, 06:57 PM

I think his question deals more with the fact that he can't fatigue his muscles no matter what he tries. He can go all out for a chest workout and even though he should be thrashed, he can still lift for more sets.

**taiboxa** · 06-03-2006, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by diamonds

I think his question deals more with the fact that he can't fatigue his muscles no matter what he tries. He can go all out for a chest workout and even though he should be thrashed, he can still lift for more sets.

wow i wish i was like that
3 sets and im SHOT
maybe its kuz im slow

**guest589745** · 06-03-2006, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

wow i wish i was like that
3 sets and im SHOT
maybe its kuz im slow

Or maybe its cause yer sets involve more effort??

**taiboxa** · 06-03-2006, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Or maybe its cause yer sets involve more effort??

well i do shit my self about every 3rd rep soo.. maybe!

**guest589745** · 06-03-2006, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

well i do shit my self about every 3rd rep soo.. maybe!

Hmm, I dunno, shittin is good but, every 1-2 reps is optimal.

**poloblue** · 06-03-2006, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by diamonds

I think his question deals more with the fact that he can't fatigue his muscles no matter what he tries. He can go all out for a chest workout and even though he should be thrashed, he can still lift for more sets.

you got it bro. to make it worst i am a landscaper im running nonstop for about seven hours in the hot ass sun all day long. i know its not the test because ive only done four shots at 250mg, but if its the tbol, thats one bad mother. well i didnt go to the gym today, but i was going crazy trying to keep my self busy around the house. thanks for all your help guy i will take everything mention into concideration

**diamonds** · 06-03-2006, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

wow i wish i was like that
3 sets and im SHOT
maybe its kuz im slow

Tai, some people on here say that 3 working sets done all out and you shouldn't be able to do anymore.
I go all out to failure on every set on my HIT routine and don't feel close to finished but I stop there because I know it's all I need to do!

**taiboxa** · 06-03-2006, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by diamonds

Tai, some people on here say that 3 working sets done all out and you shouldn't be able to do anymore.
I go all out to failure on every set on my HIT routine and don't feel close to finished but I stop there because I know it's all I need to do!

flex ur ass cheeks as u do ur reps.. really intensifies it

**Bigmax** · 06-03-2006, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

what, you disagree?! lol, you have a lot to learn.

Whats so funny??..I agree that post workout nutrition is essential....but I dont agree that cardio after your training will hurt you.Yes I have alot to learn ...but then again we can all learn more.

**taiboxa** · 06-03-2006, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Whats so funny??..I agree that post workout nutrition is essential....but I dont agree that cardio after your training will hurt you.Yes I have alot to learn ...but then again we can all learn more.

PWO cardio can be ideal in a few situations but in most cases it will detrimental to ones goals.

if ur in dire need of extreme cutting then one of the best times to do cardio is pwo when ur are already in a fat burning state but this will also to some degree prevent you from acquiring the LBM gains u would if u would fallow ur resistance training str8 into pwo nutrition.

still most ideal is morning on E

**Bigmax** · 06-03-2006, 11:59 PM

Hey tai...thanks bro and I'm fully aware of this....frankly i'm looking at the big pic of this guys situation and just didnt see where it can hurt him.Providing he gets the nutrition he needs after.

**taiboxa** · 06-04-2006, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Hey tai...thanks bro and I'm fully aware of this....frankly i'm looking at the big pic of this guys situation and just didnt see where it can hurt him.Providing he gets the nutrition he needs after.

2 ways u kan look at it
1. it slows down growth of lbm thus keeping his metabolic rate lower than it could possibly be
2. it could hasten fat loss at the expense of muscle growth

6 to 1 half a dozen to another..

***Narkissos*** · 06-04-2006, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

what, you disagree?! lol, you have a lot to learn.

I disagree too.

**guest589745** · 06-04-2006, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

I disagree too.

how can you dissagree with the importance of PWO nutrition? I must be mistaken......

**Bigmax** · 06-04-2006, 10:18 AM

skullsmasher ...I truly dont believe NarK is disagreeing with post workout nutrition....he disagrees with the fact that you guys think cardio will hurt you after weight training.Tai made some good points but thats what they are good points.I respect them ,however they are not the total tale in this game bro.You have different approaches in different guys training.beleive me when I tell you ive watched sevaral pro BB get on the tread and on the bike AFTER they slammed the weights.I dont think they would do that if it was going to affect thier muscle at all.

**Bigmax** · 06-04-2006, 10:35 AM

I'd like to ad just one more thing...guys ,I respect everyone of your opinions and thoughts,theories etc....especially the VETS,MODS and SENIORS...but i guess we have to undertsand that what works for some will not work for others DUH.....but sometimes one guy wont agree with someones statement or opinion and they are quick to fire off and blurt out its wrong or not right and I dont think thats productive at all.Its ok to agree and disagree cause we can all learn from that.

**longhorn814** · 06-04-2006, 10:37 AM

not everybody has the time to go to the gym twice a day either. I always do my cardio after training. Sure I suppose I could get up earlier in the morning and do cardio then, but I like that extra hour of sleep and as we all know, we need our sleep!

**taiboxa** · 06-04-2006, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

skullsmasher ...I truly dont believe NarK is disagreeing with post workout nutrition....he disagrees with the fact that you guys think cardio will hurt you after weight training.Tai made some good points but thats what they are good points.I respect them ,however they are not the total tale in this game bro.You have different approaches in different guys training.beleive me when I tell you ive watched sevaral pro BB get on the tread and on the bike AFTER they slammed the weights.I dont think they would do that if it was going to affect thier muscle at all.

a very good friend of mine who competes nationally does 20 min cardio before and after.. works great for him.. he stays around 8% all the time and is uber beefy

**pumpd4lif** · 06-04-2006, 11:31 AM

60 sec between sets is perfect thats all the rest u need

then before next exercise take 2 min u will be fine

**Bigmax** · 06-04-2006, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by pumpd4lif

60 sec between sets is perfect thats all the rest u need

then before next exercise take 2 min u will be fine

what are you talking about bro???...have you read the thread????and whats being discussed???

**pumpd4lif** · 06-04-2006, 12:37 PM

guess not : /

**taiboxa** · 06-04-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by pumpd4lif

guess not : /

come on rookie get w/ da program

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