Tired as hell on Equipoise

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:18 PM

I started my first cycle 2 weeks ago tomorrow. Been sick the last week off it and have absolutely no energy. It is my first cycle and so far im just doing 200mg equipoise a week. Anyone else have any of the same probs. I am so damn tired I can barely get my ass to the gym. Anyone know if this will go away? Any good supplements for energy like noxplode or anything like that? Any help will be appreciated.

**1buffsob** · 06-04-2006, 08:24 PM

It could be the fact that your natural testosterone is shut down. Maybe a little research is in order.

1buffsob

**Bigmax** · 06-04-2006, 08:26 PM

ok guy...stats????...i can tell you this you started off on the wrong foot.You obviously have not done any RESEARCH on AAS have you?????Not flaming you bro(not yet)But I wish you would have posted before you started anything.

**Bigmax** · 06-04-2006, 08:27 PM

no supplements can really help.especially if your hpta is shut down.

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:29 PM

So you saying 200mg of equi a bad choice or that I just should of known ahead of time this would happen?

**Bigmax** · 06-04-2006, 08:30 PM

No bro....eq for first cycle is BAD choice.

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:31 PM

I was told different. I was told since low androgenic there would be little side effects. Why a bad choice. Sorry im new to the site and all of this.

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by 1buffsob

It could be the fact that your natural testosterone is shut down. Maybe a little research is in order.

1buffsob

yep..

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:33 PM

If i did make a bad choice any advice on what to do now?

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by osu411yamaha

I was told different. I was told since low androgenic there would be little side effects. Why a bad choice. Sorry im new to the site and all of this.

Why would you start something this serious without prior knowledge or education..

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by osu411yamaha

If i did make a bad choice any advice on what to do now?

maybe add some test or just drop your current cycle.. im not sayingf EQ alone is the worst/waste but at 200mg even thats a waste..

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:35 PM

I did my research. Maybe it was wrong, but I have heard from multiple lifters that equipoise had low side effects with gains that you actually keep. I dont plan on doing many cycles and just wanted some help bulking a little. It seemed to me like it was the best choice

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:37 PM

I thought I would start light on it then work my way up throughout the cycle to about 500mg a week. Not a good idea?

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by osu411yamaha

I did my research. Maybe it was wrong, but I have heard from multiple lifters that equipoise had low side effects with gains that you actually keep. I dont plan on doing many cycles and just wanted some help bulking a little. It seemed to me like it was the best choice

you just said you were new to all of this, but now your not- you did your research???

Im not trying to be a dick, and you dont have to prove anything to anyone.. but you should of researched more... yes EQ does not give off any real bad side effects.. combined with test you will/would of gained a good amount of lean mass (diet dependent).. And for a bulk like you said I wouldnt of picked EQ.. I believe test would of been a good choice here..or even better test and eq..

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by osu411yamaha

I thought I would start light on it then work my way up throughout the cycle to about 500mg a week. Not a good idea?

well 200mg is a waste.. 500mg for at last 12 weeks would be much better..

**ROTTYPUP** · 06-04-2006, 08:40 PM

i did eq 400mg/week for 10 weeks and gained 20 and i didnt have energy loss like you

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:41 PM

Ok so I didnt go the route you prefer, but now im in the middle of this one. So my initial question was not if i ****ed up its what i need to do now. Are you saying 200mg a week is basically suppressing my natural test and not giving me any extra. If so does that mean that I need to take more of this or what. I had read multiple places people got results from 150 to 300 mg a week. So 200mg seemed ok to me.

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by ROTTYPUP

i did eq 400mg/week for 10 weeks and gained 20 and i didnt have energy loss like you

Some people react diff to diff substances.. but if you gained 20lbs on EQ im almost sure you could have done what you did with a good bulkig diet.. what were your stats prior and after cycle??

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:42 PM

How many calories a day were you eating rotty?

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by osu411yamaha

Ok so I didnt go the route you prefer, but now im in the middle of this one. So my initial question was not if i ****ed up its what i need to do now. Are you saying 200mg a week is basically suppressing my natural test and not giving me any extra. If so does that mean that I need to take more of this or what. I had read multiple places people got results from 150 to 300 mg a week. So 200mg seemed ok to me.

Its not my route bro.. I am not a pro always test in every cycle... Im giving you advice that most would give.. you should have researched more and you should have included test with your EQ.. thats all.. My idea would be to get some test and add it in asap.. and like i previoulsy said- peoples results will vary from person to person.. im sure some people could take 200 mg for 8 weeks and get great results.. all depends.. just trying to help you bro not hurt you..

**ROTTYPUP** · 06-04-2006, 08:44 PM

as much as i could take. 300grams protein a day not sure how much calories but lots

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:44 PM

Also Im pretty sure the EQ is making you feel tired.. so by upping the dosage dont you think would make you feel more tired and more shitty.. just a thought..

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:44 PM

Liftnainez why so rude anyway. From the get go you put me down. I never made any comment that implied i hadnt researched this. Before you go and say i didnt make the best choice you dont even know my stats or goals.

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:46 PM

I was thinking it was making me tired because it was enough to suppress my natural test but not give me any extra. But to tell you the truth im not sure how many actual mg's of testosterone per week the average male produces. Maybe i should of researched that.

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by osu411yamaha

Liftnainez why so rude anyway. From the get go you put me down. I never made any comment that implied i hadnt researched this. Before you go and say i didnt make the best choice you dont even know my stats or goals.

LOL are you serious bro.. stop being so damn senstive.. you obvioulsy did BAD research.. right now it looks like im the only one giving you better advice than you have.. find someone else to put up with your bs.. instead of picking out the parts you dont like pick out the parts you do.. and i stated over and over how im not trying to be a dick, just trying to get my point out..

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by osu411yamaha

I was thinking it was making me tired because it was enough to suppress my natural test but not give me any extra. But to tell you the truth im not sure how many actual mg's of testosterone per week the average male produces. Maybe i should of researched that.

And you KEEP proving MY point.. so dont tell me you did ALL your research..

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:48 PM

MY FIRST CYCLE LIFTNAINEZ!!! im sure you had some surprises your first time around too after doing research.

**ROTTYPUP** · 06-04-2006, 08:49 PM

average guy makes 4 to 11 mgs/test per day and 7mg/day is about avg. thats what i read. now are you dieting or something cuz low carbs can make you tired

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:49 PM

Ive read multiple people on here who have done just a cycle of equipoise and stated results by the way.

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by osu411yamaha

MY FIRST CYCLE LIFTNAINEZ!!! im sure you had some surprises your first time around too after doing research.

first of all you keep contradicting yourself so for your sake stop brining up the research part.. and thank g-d I didnt when it came to what I was injecting in my body.. I keep telling you what to do, but for some reason your trying to persuade me to believe you did research.. i dont care if you did or didnt..

**1buffsob** · 06-04-2006, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

Some people react diff to diff substances.. but if you gained 20lbs on EQ im almost sure you could have done what you did with a good bulkig diet.. what were your stats prior and after cycle??

Ditto.

1buffsob

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:50 PM

rotty was the 400mg of equi a week all you did or did you do anything with it?

**ROTTYPUP** · 06-04-2006, 08:51 PM

400mg eq alone with no test

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:51 PM

lift you and i talking obviously isnt working. Would appreciate if you stop responding to this post. No hard feelings.

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:52 PM

Did you get tired at all at first rotty?

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by osu411yamaha

Ive read multiple people on here who have done just a cycle of equipoise and stated results by the way.

Did I ever say that you couldnt get results on EQ!!?!?!? I am for one who think you can run Eq alone or EQ/VAR.. I dont go around advertising it, but I just dont feel like I, MYSELF needs test in every cycle.. EVERYONE is diff though.. obvioulsy EQ alone is not for you and you probably need test.. and for a FACT Test/EQ is much better than EQ alone, I and other just dont include test bc of the fear of certain seide effects.. are you getting what im saying or is this not going through?!?!?

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:53 PM

I think it could be other factors making me tired too. Working 40 hours a week and its finals week, senior year of college. WAs basically asking before all this nonsense if anyone else got tired on first cycle first few weeks too.

**Liftnainez** · 06-04-2006, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by osu411yamaha

lift you and i talking obviously isnt working. Would appreciate if you stop responding to this post. No hard feelings.

LOL go to sleep... your more interested in this other person who gained 20lbs off EQ rather than YOU rectifying YOUR situation.. like I said go to sleep

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:58 PM

You could care less about rectifying my situation. You would rather put me down and talk bout how bad my cycle is without ever asking about my diet or stats or anything.

**osu411yamaha** · 06-04-2006, 08:59 PM

Rotty you get tired on equi at first or never?

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