first cycle ever

**TOTHEEND** · 06-05-2006, 02:31 AM

hello guys... im planing on starting my first cycle ever.. iv been training for 5 years straight although my last year was on and off due to new work arrangements so i did gain some body fat. im 25 years old, 6'1 240punds at around 18% fat. i want to do a cycle to loose as much body fat as possible and maybe gain a few pounds of muscle. il be honest with u guys i have no much experience in steroids so im really sorry if im insulting any ones intelligince here.. anyway some one suggested i do a cycle of winstrol tabs and d.bol tohether with a fat burner ! do u think this is a wise suggestion? i dont want to use any injections yet so im going for anything oral at the moment. is there anything i should add to this, maybe remove or is it ok?
any help from u guys will be appreciated...

**tank2005** · 06-05-2006, 02:52 AM

winstrol tabs and d.bol tohether not a good idea at all,you should run test only for your first cycle,as you said thou you are not ready for neddles ,if that is the case you are not ready for gear.do some reserch man and you will learn alot about steroids fast.

**TOTHEEND** · 06-05-2006, 02:57 AM

what about just wistrol and a fat burner? will that do... and what kind of results can i expect with such a cycle/
thanks

**tank2005** · 06-05-2006, 03:01 AM

man you dont want to be useing wistrol as it works best with peole with a low b/f and not on its own for fist cycle ,the best thing you can do is get you diet right and hit the cardio hard and it should fall off you ,then when you are about 10 to 13 b/f the think about running a test only cycle ...neddles are not that bad at all man....

**tank2005** · 06-05-2006, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by TOTHEEND

what about just wistrol and a fat burner? will that do... and what kind of results can i expect with such a cycle/
thanks

that would just be a waste of money mate

**vitor** · 06-05-2006, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by TOTHEEND

what about just wistrol and a fat burner? will that do... and what kind of results can i expect with such a cycle/
thanks

There are many decent oral cycles you can take.

You could try something like this:
Andriol - 8 tabs ed 1-6/8
winstrol -50mgs ed 1-6/8
clenbuterol (in dosages suitable to you.)

If you want to cut yust take in less caloris than your body needs to maintain its current body-weight. This cycle will make it easier to maintain your muscle while youre cutting, since its your first cycle, you might even gain a little muscle while reducing bodyfat.

**TOTHEEND** · 06-05-2006, 03:35 AM

thanks for the replies guys.. however i was told that andriol is very hard to obtain . im moved to china a couple of years ago for work and i have to get my stuff from dubai since i dont know any sources here in china.... so any other suggestions????

**TheSentinal** · 06-05-2006, 03:44 AM

You do realize that injectables are, by far, a better and safer way to go - right?

**tank2005** · 06-05-2006, 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by TOTHEEND

thanks for the replies guys.. however i was told that andriol is very hard to obtain . im moved to china a couple of years ago for work and i have to get my stuff from dubai since i dont know any sources here in china.... so any other suggestions????

try a good diet with lots of cardio man ...and as i said when you are about 10 to 14 b/f then try a test e cycle for 12 weeks @ 500mg ew,you will see good gains from that ,make sure you get your pct aswell.

**Warrior** · 06-05-2006, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by TOTHEEND

thanks for the replies guys.. however i was told that andriol is very hard to obtain . im moved to china a couple of years ago for work and i have to get my stuff from dubai since i dont know any sources here in china.... so any other suggestions????

Andriol is a hell a lot easier to get in Dubai than Winstrol or Dbol . Andriol is sold in all the pharmacies... the other two require you know somebody...

**cfiler** · 06-05-2006, 08:56 AM

I'd stick with a basic test only cycle. You could also try using ECA or Clen instead.

**love 2 lift** · 06-06-2006, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by TOTHEEND

hello guys... im planing on starting my first cycle ever.. iv been training for 5 years straight although my last year was on and off due to new work arrangements so i did gain some body fat. im 25 years old, 6'1 240punds at around 18% fat. i want to do a cycle to loose as much body fat as possible and maybe gain a few pounds of muscle. il be honest with u guys i have no much experience in steroids so im really sorry if im insulting any ones intelligince here.. anyway some one suggested i do a cycle of winstrol tabs and d.bol tohether with a fat burner ! do u think this is a wise suggestion? i dont want to use any injections yet so im going for anything oral at the moment. is there anything i should add to this, maybe remove or is it ok?
any help from u guys will be appreciated...

Throw some Test in there Bro!

**michaelmotorcycle** · 06-06-2006, 06:45 AM

if your in china get some gh, jintropin... its easy to get in china, it will get rid of body fat, put on some muscles, with little or no side effects. but you will have to inject it, but its easyer then intermusclur injection. i would advise you to do some more research on it. "Jintropin"

**magic32** · 06-06-2006, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by TOTHEEND

hello guys... im planing on starting my first cycle ever.. iv been training for 5 years straight although my last year was on and off due to new work arrangements so i did gain some body fat. im 25 years old, 6'1 240punds at around 18% fat. any help from u guys will be appreciated...

Cardio, diet, multi, protein shakes/bars, efa’s, eca, and hard work.
With your stats, orals (except for Andriol ) will be a let down. They simply won't produce the impact you're seeking.

M.