Tren - only for advanced users?

**Power Viking** · 06-06-2006, 07:51 PM

I read somewhere that steroid novices should stay away from tren .
Any views?

Is tren something that should be "saved" until testosteron and other more moderate roids stop being effective at sensible doses?

I just want to be as strong as possible, should I then keep on doing test until I get "what I can get from it" before switching to tren, or should I just "tren away" even now?

I only have a handful of cycles under my belt. All of them have been 250 mg testo a week and that`s it. It has given me insane strenght gains, but tren sure does seem tempting.

**New Juice** · 06-06-2006, 08:30 PM

If 250mg/week of test is giving you insane strength gains then stick with what is working for you...that is a really low dose, by the books, of test, that's great that it's working for you...Definatly steer away from tren if you are at that level...next step is the do 500mg/weeek of test...good question

**one8nine** · 06-06-2006, 09:00 PM

my third cycle i just finished included tren and i regret it i should have stuck with test/deca type cycles

**tbjake34** · 06-06-2006, 09:20 PM

hey if u are getting good gains from 250mg/wk then up to 500mg/wk

**Tren Bull** · 06-06-2006, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

hey if u are getting good gains from 250mg/wk then up to 500mg/wk

i agree. tren is very toxic and there is no need to take it if test is giving you such great results at 250 mgs a week

***BajanBastard*** · 06-06-2006, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Tren Bull

i agree. tren is very toxic and there is no need to take it if test is giving you such great results at 250 mgs a week

I'm getting sick of hearing this. Next time someone posts this statement back that shit up with some proof.

Anyway, i never believed in the whole AR burnout theory so after doing roughly a year and a half of research i used tren in my first cycle w/o problems. It was in my 2nd cycle and will be the base of the one i'll be starting in T-minus 1 week. (I'll to using a boatload of it as well.)

**Tren Bull** · 06-06-2006, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

I'm getting sick of hearing this. Next time someone posts this statement back that shit up with some proof.

Anyway, i never believed in the whole AR burnout theory so after doing roughly a year and a half of research i used tren in my first cycle w/o problems. It was in my 2nd cycle and will be the base of the one i'll be starting in T-minus 1 week. (I'll to using a boatload of it as well.)

jeez, sorry to have offended you, but it is true that tren is much more harsh on your body than say, deca or test

***BajanBastard*** · 06-06-2006, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Tren Bull

jeez, sorry to have offended you, but it is true that tren is much more harsh on your body than say, deca or test

Point out where i said i was offended. I'm not, all i said i was tired of seeing 'tren is toxic' w/o proof.

I think you should be stripped of the name ‘trenbull’ for speaking such heresy about our God tren, ‘primocalf’ stall be your new name, now bare your mark with shame outcast.

**Tren Bull** · 06-06-2006, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Point out where i said i was offended. I'm not, all i said i was tired of seeing 'tren is toxic' w/o proof.

I think you should be stripped of the name ‘trenbull’ for speaking such heresy about our God tren, ‘primocalf’ stall be your new name, now bare your mark with shame outcast.

well the red writing kinda made me assume you were irritated.

now you're insulting me.

not offended? i find that very hard to believe

btw, ive never even taken primo

***BajanBastard*** · 06-06-2006, 10:16 PM

If you took my joke as an insult you would honestly need to get a sense of humor. I use red 99% of the time when pointing out something in a post.

**Tren Bull** · 06-06-2006, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

If you took my joke as an insult you would honestly need to get a sense of humor. I use red 99% of the time when pointing out something in a post.

oh ok. see bro, the problem is that its kinda hard to tell how things are meant to be taken when you're reading it and not hearing it

**Natureboy71** · 06-06-2006, 10:19 PM

Just finished a 75mg ED tren with 750 a week omni. First time with tren. Been off for two years before this and did mostly test cycles with little deca . About 6 total cycles in 10 years.

The tren is the bomb. My strength was incredible, size gains incredible, very little sides other than water retention.

I would give it a go. Just start at 50ED and move it up to 75ED tren after about 2 weeks like I did.

***BajanBastard*** · 06-06-2006, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Tren Bull

oh ok. see bro, the problem is that its kinda hard to tell how things are meant to be taken when you're reading it and not hearing it

No problem primocalf.

**Rickson** · 06-06-2006, 10:30 PM

I think the reason most people consider tren a more advanced drug is that it often has more sides then certain other AAS. It can often be difficult to seperate sides so most advice you to do a basic cycle to understand how your body reacts before adding this compound. I personally have BP issues with tren although I really like it. I now keep my use to six to eight weeks and keep it at about 100mg a day.

**Oki-Des** · 06-06-2006, 10:31 PM

Im kind of a newbie, and only speaking from my own experience. I have taken a few cycles and on my last one decided to run some tren . I have a slight anger problem, but never out of control. Unfortunately, tren was just what I needed to be one step beyond what I personally could control. I loved the strength gains, but I lost some things as well. First, I walked into a door and punched it so hard a bone in my hand popped out through the skin. The rediculous thing was, I had just broke that same hand punching a wall a few weeks earlier. I had never even punched a wall before, but on tren did it twice. I know many people say, AAS do not cause this behavior. I am not saying it can make a normal person crazy, but I think it can make a slightly crazy person seem a little too crazy. I used to think I had control of myself as I had never lost it before. It only takes one second and then you know how dumb you were, but it wont change the past. I blame myself, but I beleive the tren had a little to do with it as well. Anyways, I am now running test and HGH and happy as ever. No more tren for me until I am older and wiser.

**Tren Bull** · 06-06-2006, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

No problem primocalf.

god damn it, just wait till i get another 15 heavy cycles in me. maybe one day i can live up to the name bull

**yom** · 06-07-2006, 08:33 AM

i ran tren first cycle it was . too strong as i got heeps of acne and sickness . but now im currently on 1.5 g tren and aas. loving it.
it your own fault you punched the wall . control yourself

**Mesomorphyl** · 06-07-2006, 08:49 AM

I found that one should see how they react to test and other things that may be added to a tren cycle... I get sides. Cardio is shit, night sweats, fight at the drop of a hat... This is the one roid I would say can cause rage... whether some believe in rage or not.