The boys are shrinking.........

**OLDFART0124** · 06-09-2006, 04:29 PM

I was worried that maybe my Test E was bunk. Even through I got it from a great place. I just started week 7 Of a 500mg EW first cycle. Since This shrinkage is noticeable am I right to think that my body has an overload of test and the boys are not having to work? This week is the first time in the gym I felt like maybe it is kicking in. I also thought that while on a test cycle that I would have a woody all the time. It is getting harder to get a woody. Is this normal and what could I use to get a better woody. The neighbors old lady is used to sex everyday and it is getting tough to do this. Is Proviron the answer? Oh yea I also take 10mg nolva daily. Thanks in advance....!!

**SMAN12b** · 06-09-2006, 04:48 PM

It usually takes Test E form 6-8 weeks to kick in. I would try using some HCG throughout your cycle if you are worried about shrinkage. YES it happens because you are definetly overloading your test and your BOYS dont' need to work, so they took a vacation.

What do you have for your PCT protocol?
I would save the Proviron and add it to PCT

**OLDFART0124** · 06-09-2006, 05:02 PM

I have clomid and nolva. I got letro on hand if needed. I Guess I need to find some hcg ...I am not worried about shrinkage it is the lack of a good woody that has me concerned.

**mrscottsdale** · 06-09-2006, 05:25 PM

get some cialis

**OLDFART0124** · 06-09-2006, 05:29 PM

I have heard that stuff does not work if you are shut down from the juice. But I also thought test would not shut you down until post cycle. I dont know what to think.

**BigJames** · 06-09-2006, 05:32 PM

From what I have read, some people end up on a libido overdrive throughout their cycle. I expected this, but it did not happen. When my natty test started to shut down I felt like my sex drive reduced and I also noticed that I was not getting morning erections. I added 2.5g ED of Tribulus and the morning wood came back almost immediately and my sex drive picked up. I am not sure of the physiological explaination for a reduction while on, other than to assume that some receptors just did not adapt to the Test E ester.

**BigJames** · 06-09-2006, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by OLDFART0124

I have heard that stuff does not work if you are shut down from the juice. But I also thought test would not shut you down until post cycle. I dont know what to think.

Technically when you are "on" your natural production stops, but the exogenous test provides the same functionality of the natural test (and more so) so all is well. I personnally felt that when I was on Test E and Test C my sex drive and erections seemed to decrease along with my natural levels. As mentioned above, I added some Trib and all was well.

**BigJames** · 06-09-2006, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by OLDFART0124

I have clomid and nolva. I got letro on hand if needed. I Guess I need to find some hcg...I am not worried about shrinkage it is the lack of a good woody that has me concerned.

Letro is a great aromatase inhibitor, but I would not use it for PCT as it serves no other purpose...Nolva is ideal because it not only blocks estrogen reception, but also stimulates pituatary functionality. Just my opinion.

**OLDFART0124** · 06-09-2006, 05:36 PM

Tribulus?........I got some research to do........Thanks James.....Any other thoughts ....please.

**BADASS323** · 06-09-2006, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by OLDFART0124

I have heard that stuff does not work if you are shut down from the juice. But I also thought test would not shut you down until post cycle. I dont know what to think.

cialis has worked great for me.also the wife injoys its use as well!!

**BigJames** · 06-09-2006, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by BADASS323

cialis has worked great for me.also the wife injoys its use as well!!

Hahahaha I bet she does...classic.

**BigJames** · 06-09-2006, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by OLDFART0124

Tribulus?........I got some research to do........Thanks James.....Any other thoughts ....please.

Bro, I just pm'd you with some more on this...I found trib to be effective, but others do not. I have heard that tongkat ali (longfolia jack) is also excellent for this sort of thing, but I have not tried it myself...yet. The key to the trib is getting enough...it is not super potent so the 2.5-3g is what makes a big difference. I am actually used it from week 9-13 of my cycle and then have continued it into PCT to help bring the system back on line. So far, so good. Trib at 3g ED 5 days on 2 days off.

It works "kind of" like HCG ...just not as effective.

**Homeguard** · 06-09-2006, 05:45 PM

Gotta say, I love it when my nuts atrophy........ Means my gear is bang on legit

**thegodfather** · 06-09-2006, 05:46 PM

Tribulus, Tongkat Ali (some people praise it), and HCG .... On cycle I have a routine, sit down in front of porn every week of the cycle, and see how my erections are...This may sound strange, but when you have it on your mind that you could be shutting down and you cant get it up, then that plays on your mind when you're with your girl and ****s you all up into thinking you cant get it up. I've had it happen before, the sure fire way IMO is to sit down in front of porn and if you can bang out some wood then you're libido is in tact. If not, then you need to take measure to restore it.

**BigJames** · 06-09-2006, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Homeguard

Gotta say, I love it when my nuts atrophy........ Means my gear is bang on legit

That is true...that is one of the things I was looking for when I noticed that my drive did not sky rocket...I thought my gear was bad, but the boys started shrinking...that and I gained 22 pounds in 10 weeks.

**BigJames** · 06-09-2006, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by thegodfather

Tribulus, Tongkat Ali (some people praise it), and HCG.... On cycle I have a routine, sit down in front of porn every week of the cycle, and see how my erections are...This may sound strange, but when you have it on your mind that you could be shutting down and you cant get it up, then that plays on your mind when you're with your girl and ****s you all up into thinking you cant get it up. I've had it happen before, the sure fire way IMO is to sit down in front of porn and if you can bang out some wood then you're libido is in tact. If not, then you need to take measure to restore it.

This routine is just "on cycle"...this sounds like a pretty normal off cycle routine to me...

**BADASS323** · 06-09-2006, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by BigJames

Hahahaha I bet she does...classic.

no really...she uses it as well!!

**OLDFART0124** · 06-09-2006, 05:57 PM

Hey Godfather....that was great . I needed to find a good laugh out of this....Thanks Bro.......

**Ufa** · 06-09-2006, 05:59 PM

You might want to have your estrogen levels checked. Arimidex helps my boys. Maybe you got to much estro.

**OLDFART0124** · 06-09-2006, 06:01 PM

I think ill fire off a practice round or two every week as a test.......I got tears running down my face from laughing.....James says that is his normalon or off cycle LMAO .....I needed this..Thanks

**OLDFART0124** · 06-09-2006, 06:04 PM

UFA...I have been on 10 mg ed of nolva from day one..You still think estrogen could be the problem?

**Ufa** · 06-09-2006, 06:04 PM

Every week for some one my age is pushing it.

**fanatic** · 06-09-2006, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by OLDFART0124

I have heard that stuff does not work if you are shut down from the juice. But I also thought test would not shut you down until post cycle. I dont know what to think.

No bro, when your body stops needing to produce natural testosterone it does. So, when your body is getting test from another source, it stops making its own- you are now "shut down." Think of like using chapstick too much. What happens? Your lips stop producing their own natural moisture and thus are "shut down". Our bodies only do as much as they forced to do- nothing more, nothing less. Hope this helps. Oh yeah, try HCG it really helps.

**OLDFART0124** · 06-09-2006, 06:37 PM

Thanks fanatic...Ill try some cialis also....HCG has been difficult for me to get. What is your thoughts on proviron .?

**tek434** · 06-09-2006, 07:17 PM

How safe is cialis?

sorry for the newb question and being a bit OT

**fanatic** · 06-09-2006, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by tek434

How safe is cialis?

sorry for the newb question and being a bit OT

Its about as safe as anything else I suupose. Test works best for ED in my opinion. Lol Search cialis bro, theres ALOT of stuff on it all over the net.