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06-12-2006, 01:39 PM #1Senior Member
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proviron question
stats-3rd cycle, 5'9", 195 lbs., approx. 15% BF
hi, my next cycle i was going to try test enan 600mg's/week and equipoise 600 mg's/week both for 14 weeks and i was thinking of throwing proviron in there at 50 mg's a day. my question is can i use proviron for 14 weeks? i'm thinking yes since it's not 17-aa and not very liver toxic. also, i am sensitive to gyno but fought it off successfully in my past cycles using .3 mg of liquidex every day. do you guys think that the proviron without liquidex will be enough to combat estrogen production? thanks for your thoughts.
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06-12-2006, 01:42 PM #2
First of all, your cycle should look like this.
Test 14 weeks
EQ 13 weeks
OR
Test 15 weeks
EQ 14 weeks.
If you have enough Proviron to run it full cycle, do it, just save some for pct and the interim period from your last test shot to your first day of pct.
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06-12-2006, 01:44 PM #3Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
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06-12-2006, 01:51 PM #4Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
Proviron 25-50mg/ED whilst "on". 50mg/ED for PCT.
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06-12-2006, 02:09 PM #5Senior Member
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so you guys think use the proviron 50 mg's a day for PCT as well? i was planning on running clomid and nolva for 3 weeks for PCT. how should i use the proviron in PCT, alone for 3 weeks or with clomid and/or nolvadex ? thanks. i will extend my test to 15 weeks to go 1 week past the EQ per your instructions.
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06-12-2006, 02:11 PM #6
I would use a Nolva/Proviron PCT..
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06-12-2006, 02:15 PM #7Senior Member
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06-12-2006, 02:18 PM #8
50mgs of proviron and 20mg of nolva is what I would do..
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06-12-2006, 02:22 PM #9Senior Member
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sounds good, thanks for the input, i do appreciate it.
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06-12-2006, 03:25 PM #10Originally Posted by Liftnainez
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06-12-2006, 03:43 PM #11Originally Posted by Swifto
I look forward to your response.
MJ
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06-12-2006, 03:53 PM #12Senior Member
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that is an excellent question! that's also how i usually guage if my PCT is finished.
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06-12-2006, 03:57 PM #13
good point mighty joe
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06-12-2006, 04:07 PM #14
get off after the 3-4 weeks and then see where you stand.. get a blood test and get checked.. that should help
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06-12-2006, 05:41 PM #15Senior Member
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also, i got so caught up in the PCT discussion that i just realized the second part of my main question went unanswered. do you think the 50 mg's proviron a day will keep the gyno away? i usually have to include liquidex at .3 mg's a day to keep gyno away whan i run test. thanks again.
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06-12-2006, 06:32 PM #16
Bump
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06-13-2006, 04:20 AM #17
If you make it to pct wth no sign of gyno, and continue running proviron , you should be in the clear. Your test levels will be dropping, which means less test to aromatise into estrogen and cause gyno.
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06-13-2006, 10:02 AM #18Senior Member
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but that's what i'm asking, do you think i'll make it to PCT without gyno using only proviron to prevent estrogen? or should i include liquidex anyway?
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06-13-2006, 11:07 AM #19Associate Member
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Originally Posted by swole25
Me personally, I am on liquidex right now with my test e cycle.Last edited by speak; 06-13-2006 at 11:12 AM.
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06-13-2006, 12:12 PM #20Senior Member
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OK, i thought i read a few places where proviron is supposed to stop testosterone from being converted to estrogen. i do get gyno on test and have used liquidex in the past but i didn't know if it would be neccessary to take while taking proviron.
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06-13-2006, 12:44 PM #21Originally Posted by Mighty JoeOriginally Posted by Liftnainez
If your purely coming off of PCT when your sex drive is back, then I agree, using Proviron isnt the best of ideas. But, I'd say this. Use Proviron for 4-5 weeks when doing your PCT. Then slowly ween off of it. Use 50mg/ED for 2 weeks, then down to 25mg/ED for 1-2 weeks. See how your sex drive is then...If its still poor, you know your HPTA hasnt recovered adequetely. If its back, then you know your PCT has been a success. You could even use 25mg/EOD if needed.
I believe the benifits of it are to great to simply leave it out. Low liver toxicity, high binding affinity to SHBG...The list goes on....
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06-13-2006, 12:45 PM #22Originally Posted by swole25
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06-13-2006, 01:26 PM #23Originally Posted by Swifto
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06-13-2006, 03:03 PM #24Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Swifto
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06-13-2006, 03:21 PM #25Associate Member
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liquidex is cheap, if you know youre prone why not take it anyway
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06-13-2006, 04:08 PM #26Originally Posted by swole25
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06-13-2006, 05:37 PM #27Senior Member
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what dosage of aromasin is common? i've never used it, but can get it.
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06-14-2006, 04:27 AM #28Originally Posted by swole25
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06-16-2006, 12:03 AM #29Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Swifto
im running 20mg ED at the moment but im also running proviron so it kinda covers up whatever the aromasins doing so i cant tell but everything i have read indicates 20-25mg ED is the right pct dose.
i just found this thread while searching for opinions on proviron for pct, i just created a thread earlier today asking for opinions on proviron for pct if anyone wants to chime in.
here it is:
has anyone used proviron during pct (COMMENTS PLEASE)
sorry if this is a kinda thread hijack by linking my thread to this one
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06-16-2006, 06:09 AM #30Originally Posted by MAXIMA5
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06-16-2006, 09:16 PM #31Originally Posted by Swifto
MJ
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06-17-2006, 02:40 AM #32
Yep.......swifto!
Are you done w/ tbol, swifto?
So what's the verdict?
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