Andriol first time

[toyman]

Hello all,

I recently bought 150 caps Andriol 40mg caps.

Whats the best daily dose to use?
The company says 4 caps per day but I'm reading on these blogs it should be more like 6 per day spread out, and that it should be taken with high lipid count foods.

What the best way to use these 150 caps?

[SMAN12b]

What are your stats?? age, height weight BF% eating habits training habits goals for using this Andriol?

are you gonna use anything else with it?

Here is the profile,,it should help:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199828

WELCOME TO AR

Please read the first 7-8 threads at the very top of this forum and you will learn plenty
Enjoy your stay

[toyman]

Thanks SMAN12B,

I’m 32, 5' 10" 167lbs I don’t know my exact BF% but it’s pretty low.
Training 10 years using OTC creatine muscle milk, ripped fuel, No explode etc.

This is my first time with any anabolics.

[SMAN12b]

So, you realize then with your 150 caps, that is only about 10-15 days worth right?

At only 167# for your height, I might suggest MORE FOOD if you are trying to get bigger.

There is an excellant diet forum here that can help show you the way to bulk or cut properly

[toyman]

i thought 6 caps per day was the max.

are you saying 10??

[SMAN12b]

i thought 6 caps per day was the max.

are you saying 10??

From the drug profile:




Truthfully, I can’t be confident predicting more than a 5lbs gain with the use of Andriol, because this product has a very odd property, and that is the widely varying effects it has on test subjects. In one study I read, four test subjects were each given Andriol, and one had a huge surge in testosterone levels going up to 60.1nmol/L and the other only had a 11.5nmol/L level(5)! The remaining 2 test subjects fell in between those levels. I am speculating that the differences experienced by the test subjects were primarily due to the variances inherent in the lymphatic system. But to make matters even more inconsistent, there is no evidence that those variances wouldn’t occur within the same person taking Andriol (i.e. you get a huge surge in testosterone one day, and a very minor one the next day). This may be due to variability associated with whether this stuff is taken with food or not. Since it operates via association with your small intestine and lymphatic pathways, taking it with food greatly enhances it’s bioavailability(9), and this may be a case of “problem solved” but I’m hesitant to close the books on andriol’s absorbtion problems so quickly…for now, we’ll just say you are spending your money much more wisely if you take your andriol with meals.

Despite all of it’s problems, if I had the money to run 10-15 caps of Andriol/day, and if I were looking for a stand-alone oral compound to safely run for a full cycle (of perhaps 12 weeks), then I have to admit, Andriol would be my #1 choice. Testosterone undecanoate and may offer an alternative for androgen treatment in women.

[SMAN12b]

Also from the drug profile:


So, putting some Testosterone Undecanoate in Gel Caps is what the scientists at Organon have done with their Andriol product, and it all looks good so far, right? The active steroid totally bypasses your liver and hence doesn’t get damaged by or damage your liver, and gets a bunch of Testosterone into your body. Great! But what happens next? Well, after the lymphatic system has brought the testosterone undecanoate into circulation in your body, the undecanoate ester begins to be removed. This would leave you with (roughly) 25mgs of testosterone in your blood stream, as the decanoate ester takes up a lot of “space” and the cap only contains a total of 40mgs of testosterone undecanoate (roughly 15mgs of which are ester). The end results from Andriol would be very similar to the end result of injecting almost any form of testosterone(4), once your body removes the ester. But remember, you’d never inject 25mgs of testosterone suspension and call it a day…but that’s exactly what you are doing when you take only one Andriol cap.

6 caps a day will net you about 150mgs of test, therefore, yes you can do just 6 a day if you want to

[toyman]

so bottom line my 150 caps wont do anything.

[SMAN12b]

Well it is only 25 days worth at best. Depends on your goals.

Most people will tell you For FIRST cycles, to do a single ester TEST for 10-12 weeks

[toyman]

thanks we'll see.
I'll do the 6 a day and see how it goes.

Thanks for your help.

[SMAN12b]

I have no first hand experience with Andriol, but usual test dose for first timers is 500mgs/week
Havent' used Andriol, it is hard to say if it would work the same as injected test.
500mgs/wk would only be 20 caps a week, which would make your 150 last about 7.5 weeks

BUMP for VET help here

[toyman]

sorry now im confused

each cap is 40mg. so 500mgs per week is 12.5 caps not 20.

can you clarify?

[Liftnainez]

So, you realize then with your 150 caps, that is only about 10-15 days worth right?

At only 167# for your height, I might suggest MORE FOOD if you are trying to get bigger.
There is an excellant diet forum here that can help show you the way to bulk or cut properly

Biggest contributor to gains is DIET

[SMAN12b]

sorry now im confused

each cap is 40mg. so 500mgs per week is 12.5 caps not 20.

can you clarify?

You didnt' read the profile did you ???

Each cap is 25mgs of TEST
and 15 mgs of the ester
that is your 40mg cap

IF it was ME, I would try to get some Test E and do a proper 12 week cycle.

and as I said, I do not have PERSONAL experience with it, so I am only going by the profile.

maybe a VET or someone else that has used it can offer some experienced feedback. SORRY

Just tryin to get you in the right direction, didn't mean to confuse you more

[Liftnainez]

hey superman stop confusing ppl LOL!!!

[toyman]

i did. just didnt understand the whole "test" thing.

didnt mean to bug you, im new to this.

so ill start at about 5 caps per day and see where it goes.

thanks again

[SMAN12b]

hey superman stop confusing ppl LOL!!!

Damnnnnn I am confused now.....lolol

[SMAN12b]

i did. just didnt understand the whole "test" thing.

didnt mean to bug you, im new to this.

so ill start at about 5 caps per day and see where it goes.

thanks again

You are NOT buggin me at all bro, just wish I had more concrete advice for you on this. I will have to do some more research myself.

you still really didn't list your goals that you want out of this cycle???

[toyman]

id like to pick up 10 lbs lean mass.

is that doable?

[toyman]

OK now i have 210 x 40 MG Andriols. i plan to take 6 a day spread 2 2 2 for a week or so. then up it to 8 a day for about 20 days.

what do you think???

[marcus300]

Andriol is a great drug if it used correctly, Ive used it many times and i just love the feeling on this drug i cant say enough about it how it makes you feel, the dose is an individual thing but normally the dose would be high, there are no side effects only positives ones, its very underrated on this board but i feel that is because some don't know how to use it correctly.

Ive used it to cut and bulk and either way its a very good compound to have within a cycle, hardness/strength/size are the results what i receive from Andriol,

I would advice any serious BB to try it and see if it works for them because when it does the results are amazing without any sides, There were studies done in England regarding Andriol and it came out on top for test replacement no other test came near it, no sides only benefits, but you must learn how to use it correctly IE dose and other compounds to get the whole benefit from Andriol.

Dosages are best taken every hour throughout the day, 6 a day is not a good dose, research it, there are plenty of threads regarding this compound
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[goose]

Have to agree with marcus,the only thing I can add is I think Andriol should be stacked with another compound.......

[marcus300]

Have to agree with marcus,the only thing I can add is I think Andriol should be stacked with another compound.......

correct it brings out the full potential of the compound, ive ran it both ways and have had good response with it but its far better with others or another compound.

[goose]

correct it brings out the full potential of the compound, ive ran it both ways and have had good response with it but its far better with others or another compound.

let`s say it`s a cutting cycle and you could only choose one other AAS,what would it be?

[marcus300]

let`s say it`s a cutting cycle and you could only choose one other AAS,what would it be?

goose your playing with me now

with the results you Pm'ed me when you was trying it speak for themselves, cheeky,

why does it have to be just 1 other compound????

please can i have a couple?

[goose]

goose your playing with me now

with the results you Pm'ed me when you was trying it speak for themselves, cheeky,

why does it have to be just 1 other compound????

please can i have a couple?

LOL.Just Interested in some of the combinations you have done with Andriol

[marcus300]

LOL.Just Interested in some of the combinations you have done with Andriol

Done many over the years goose,

i do like the prop,tren and masteron with Andriol

also prop,primo, winny and Andriol

done many combos and a few bulking ones aswell,

its a excellent addition to any type of cycle, but must be ran correctly, high dose and taken throughout the day,

what combos do you like?

[SMAN12b]

Done many over the years goose,

i do like the prop,tren and masteron with Andriol

also prop,primo, winny and Andriol

done many combos and a few bulking ones aswell,

its a excellent addition to any type of cycle, but must be ran correctly, high dose and taken throughout the day,

what combos do you like?

So what would you consider a high dose if adding to a cycle?
and what duration would you suggest? The entire cycle or only part?

[goose]

Done many over the years goose,

i do like the prop,tren and masteron with Andriol

also prop,primo, winny and Andriol

done many combos and a few bulking ones aswell,

its a excellent addition to any type of cycle, but must be ran correctly, high dose and taken throughout the day,

what combos do you like?

Well I dont have Experience like you,but the best I liked was using Primo and andriol as a base,starting the cycles with masteron dropping it and introducing winny to finish the cycle.I`m talking about the winny doses you like.With this cycle I did not use an anti E,At the same time, you have the distinct advantage of taking a group of steroid`s that doesn't really aromatize, so there is no need to add Nolvadex or Proviron to the mix. That's the problem with a lot of drugs that require an accompaniment of anti-estrogen compounds; they can cause a film of water to appear on an otherwise contest-ready physique because of the estrogenic element.It was a great experience without robbing the muscles of fullness.

[getpumped24]

lots of quality food = 10 lb muscle mass gain. you might lose the abs, but you can get them back. it is possible to gain 50 good lbs w/o roids, i've done it. save the andriol for later. just my opinion.

[marcus300]

Well I dont have Experience like you,but the best I liked was using Primo and andriol as a base,starting the cycles with masteron dropping it and introducing winny to finish the cycle.I`m talking about the winny doses you like.With this cycle I did not use an anti E,At the same time, you have the distinct advantage of taking a group of steroid`s that doesn't really aromatize, so there is no need to add Nolvadex or Proviron to the mix. That's the problem with a lot of drugs that require an accompaniment of anti-estrogen compounds; they can cause a film of water to appear on an otherwise contest-ready physique because of the estrogenic element.It was a great experience without robbing the muscles of fullness.

What dose did run it at goose?

[vitor]

I did this cycle some time ago:

Andriol-12 caps ed 1-12
Primo 1g ew 1-10
winstrol100mgs ed 2-12

I took 2 caps of andriol every second-hour.
Its one of the best cycles Ive done, gained alot of new muscle-tissue on it. The only "side-effect" was that I got uncontollable-erections thrue the day. Did I yust call that a side-effect, hmmm, had to think about that for a second...

[marcus300]

I did this cycle some time ago:

Andriol-12 caps ed 1-12
Primo 1g ew 1-10
winstrol100mgs ed 2-12

I took 2 caps of andriol every second-hour.
Its one of the best cycles Ive done, gained alot of new muscle-tissue on it. The only "side-effect" was that I got uncontollable-erections thrue the day. Did I yust call that a side-effect, hmmm, had to think about that for a second...

Second that

good stack

[goose]

What dose did run it at goose?

Well during that cycle I was changing my doses all the time I was Experimenting ,I feel doses of 400mg each day are safe to run without an anti E.In the furture I will run 12 caps per day in my cutting cycles with no anti E,I think thats a perfect dose,it`s great to have some Estrogen Floating around and knowing your not going to get gyno.Obviously you must understand how sentive you are,however,I have never known a person that has got gyno with Andriol.

[Sharky72]

Bro, 10 a day is expensive as hell, no? I'm getting 60 40mg andriol for like $70 so thats roughly $140 a week?! Must get a hell of alot better deal than I my friend!Lol

[toyman]

Ok- Really thanks.I appreciate all the feedback. But look ALL I HAVE IS 210 Andriols!
So no stack no additions unless I can get it on the net or at GNC.
Will 8 a day (2,2,2,2 every 2 hours) do anything???
Remember I'm 5'9" 167 lbs see my pic.
Should I not throw away my $1.50 per pill and get a hold of a stack on the net? If so what?
I'm looking to pick up 5-10 LBS of lean cut mass. Realistic goal?

Thanks in advance!!

[tvd220]

well first you need more andriol, if you want to do an andriol cycle (unless you use it as a kick start to another cycle which has never been discused on this board).

I have used andriols and i think its great, but very very expensive. I take 3 caps, 4 times per day.

Also, you should be able to gain 5-7 pounds of lean mass, if your diet is also in check. Sex drive will be crazy, and you will feel a sence of well being.

[marcus300]

Well during that cycle I was changing my doses all the time I was Experimenting ,I feel doses of 400mg each day are safe to run without an anti E.In the furture I will run 12 caps per day in my cutting cycles with no anti E,I think thats a perfect dose,it`s great to have some Estrogen Floating around and knowing your not going to get gyno.Obviously you must understand how sentive you are,however,I have never known a person that has got gyno with Andriol.

Sounds good to me goose

[SMAN12b]

Ok- Really thanks.I appreciate all the feedback. But look ALL I HAVE IS 210 Andriols!
So no stack no additions unless I can get it on the net or at GNC.
Will 8 a day (2,2,2,2 every 2 hours) do anything???
Remember I'm 5'9" 167 lbs see my pic.
Should I not throw away my $1.50 per pill and get a hold of a stack on the net? If so what?
I'm looking to pick up 5-10 LBS of lean cut mass. Realistic goal?

Thanks in advance!!

FInd yourself a single ester test like Test E or Cyp and just use the Andriols as a kick start

[toyman]

WHat are the best foods (or Drinks) to be tacken with my daily andriol for maximum uptake and transport?
and why?

also any timing issue with regards to training time?

ill be taking 2 caps 4 times daily.