many people say that a long cycle is necessary when using eq,i responded very early on test e(which has same active life) and thought that eq might work over a similar time scale(to kick in),maybe more so if i front loaded it?
anybody?
many people say that a long cycle is necessary when using eq,i responded very early on test e(which has same active life) and thought that eq might work over a similar time scale(to kick in),maybe more so if i front loaded it?
anybody?
test e and eq arent the same thing there different compounds. how long did it take for the test e to kick in for you and did you front load it
i know they are different compoundsOriginally Posted by joshr
but they have the same active life so any results should work in the same time frame,i frontloaded 1gram the first week bloated a little after 3 weeks(10lb-14lbs)then week 4-6 all growth occured nothing at all after week 7.so my real question is if i run them together could i expect some results in that time frame?
Originally Posted by helium3
Yes, I think so. For me personally, EQ will take a good 5 weeks to kick in, 4 weeks if your dosage is high enough. Usually what I like to do is take 8-1000mg/wk for the first 2 wks on EQ, then drop it back a little to 600mg or so for the rest of the cycle. Everybody will tell you that you need to run Eq for at least 12 wks, but I think on a higher dosage(over 600mg/wk) 10 wks will suffice. And also, I take a test e/prop blend, so I get that shit in me right away, then when the long chains kick in I'm really good to go!!!
If you're running EQ, and only plan on doing it for 10 weeks, your dosages need to be pretty high. EQ is a rather weak compound as it is, so 600mg+ EW are needed to see cost effective results running it in a 10 week time frame. If I was going to run it 10 weeks, I'd go like stayinstacked and do at least 1g EW for the first 2-3 weeks, and drop it down to 800mg for the remaining time. The increased vascularity, that's so commonly associated with EQ, probably will just be kicking in about the time you discontinue administration.
For me personally, EQ doesn't seem cost effective unless the cycle's duration is at least 14-16 weeks. The only reason I'd run it is for the increased RBC and the vascularity. And that doesn't usually happen till after 10 weeks, regardless of dosage.
1buffsob
thanks guys.
Originally Posted by 1buffsob
True that, i'm finding that the EQ promotes strength gains, but as far as appearance changes go I like the stuff better for cutting
Ditto. Cept I'm one of those unfortunate individuals who gets hunger pains from EQ, preventing me from running it durring a cutting cycle. I had to discontinue EQ 5 weeks into this cutter as the hunger pains outweighed the benifit of running the compound.Originally Posted by stayinstacked
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1buffsob
Originally Posted by helium3
ive heard that equi takes DAYS to kick in. i only ran it once, and i did it wrong so i cant really speak from personal experience
Originally Posted by helium3
i was under the impression that equi had like a 10-14 day half life while test e was closer to 7 or 8 days.
I wish. That shit takes at least 3 weeks for the majority, if not longer. I didn't feel the effects of it till week 5 running 600mg EW.Originally Posted by Tren Bull
1buffsob
Originally Posted by 1buffsob
thats what i meant. by days, i didn't literally mean a few days, i meant a long time.
As far as I know Test E has a 13 day active life and Eq has a 21 day active life. That is why you run Test one week longer than Eq and start PCT 2 weeks after your last Test shot (three weeks after last Eq shot). For most, Eq takes 5+ weeks to kick in and that is why many suggest running it for 12 weeks minimum. I like a 13 week Test E cycle with 12 weeks of Eq.
eq is commonly known to take 5-6 weeks to kick in.
Originally Posted by BigJames
haha, you know how long i ran equi?
i took it for the last 3 weeks of my cycle.
i know... i know...
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i was uneducated about aas at the time
Hey, if I had not found this forum I would have pyramided my doses of Test from 100mg/wk to 300mg/wk over an 8 week cycle...no worries.Originally Posted by Tren Bull
..I generally notice an appetite increase at 2.5 - 3 weeks into the cycle....
AG
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