Tired, bp high and blood test results

**lzicc** · 06-14-2006, 10:12 AM

I am posting this hoping other members may find this information useful.

I have been on test e at 500mg ew and hgh at 3iu, 5/2 for about six months now. I started eq about 10 weeks ago at 600mg ew.

I had posted earlier about how I was feeling tired all the time. Marcus replied to my post and was telling me his similar experience and that he had a high rbc and had to have some blood taken out.

My main symptom was being tired all the time and wanting to sleep, but I was also feeling lethargic, vision was a little hazy, very high bp, hot all the time/would sweat like crazy, winded most of the time, dizzy and loss of motivation. Kinda reminded me of being on my tren cycle. J

After seeing how high my bp was, which peaked at 172/106 one time, I decided to quit the cycle and go see my doctor. I did tell my doctor about my cycle. He sent me out for blood work and everything came back fine except for my rbc. I had too much blood in my system. My doc sent me to the hospital to have a pint of blood removed. I have to have more blood work done now to see if my rbc is ok now, if it is still high, I will need to have some more blood removed.

Obviously being on the test that long and adding the eq really increased my rbc. I was happy to see that everything else was fine though. I never had a blood test while on a cycle before. I am going to start donating blood 3 times a year to try and avoid this from happening again. I found out that you can donate while on a cycle with no problems.

After they took the blood, I didn’t feel immediate relief like I heard some people do, but the girl at the hospital said that it could take a few hours to a day or so.

I would have never have thought about my rbc causing this if it wasn’t for this forum. I appreciate Marcus’s input on this issue and the very supportive forum members on this board.

**marcus300** · 06-14-2006, 10:26 AM

Thanks for your comments and update of your problem,

I knew it would be the RBC ive seen it many times ans experienced it myself,
thanks for letting us know the outcome,

This will be useful to other board members who may be having similar problems,

**BADASS323** · 06-14-2006, 10:29 AM

good stuff bro. hope you are feeling better now.

**stitch1967** · 06-14-2006, 01:54 PM

awesome post...good to see follow-up posts not just questions and answers...would like to see if it fixes your problems..pls keep us updated

**Ufa** · 06-14-2006, 01:59 PM

Glad to hear your are OK. Man 172 is off the scale. Keep us posted on the donation of blood and it's effect on RBC. Take care.

**Liftnainez** · 06-14-2006, 02:11 PM

good to hear bro you found the prob and took care of it.. be safe

**guest589745** · 06-14-2006, 02:49 PM

I too was very tired after injecting 450mg test. It seems to now go away a day or two after injecting. JMO.

**lzicc** · 06-14-2006, 03:54 PM

I will keep you guys posted for sure. I hope tomorrow I feel back to normal. I know in the past I would run into feeling something like this. I always blamed it on test flu or that my immune system was down. I wonder now. Thanks for the support guys.

**marcus300** · 06-15-2006, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by lzicc

I will keep you guys posted for sure. I hope tomorrow I feel back to normal. I know in the past I would run into feeling something like this. I always blamed it on test flu or that my immune system was down. I wonder now. Thanks for the support guys.

After they have taken the blood you will feel great within 24 hours, i did.

**Kale** · 06-15-2006, 03:25 AM

so I have this winded feeling all the time as well. Like I breath really heavy all the time and get short of breath incredibly easy. Does this sound like RBC as well, I have been on cycle for 9 weeks now

**marcus300** · 06-15-2006, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

so I have this winded feeling all the time as well. Like I breath really heavy all the time and get short of breath incredibly easy. Does this sound like RBC as well, I have been on cycle for 9 weeks now

Its more of a lethargic feeling like you could sleep day and night

**Kale** · 06-15-2006, 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Its more of a lethargic feeling like you could sleep day and night

Ah OK, that not me, I get tired around 6.00pm , like right now and want to go to bed but I never get there till 11.00pm and then I only sleep 6 hours. I am hopeing the HGH will fix that. I start next Monday

**marcus300** · 06-15-2006, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by Kale

Ah OK, that not me, I get tired around 6.00pm , like right now and want to go to bed but I never get there till 11.00pm and then I only sleep 6 hours. I am hopeing the HGH will fix that. I start next Monday

sounds good to me, its 11am in the morning here,

gh = wicked dreams

**Kale** · 06-15-2006, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

sounds good to me, its 11am in the morning here,

gh = wicked dreams

Just what I dont need. On almost a gram a week of test its ready to snap off already

**marcus300** · 06-15-2006, 04:14 AM

Kale, you got pm coming

**lzicc** · 06-15-2006, 07:29 AM

Well, a day went by since I had the blood taken out and I am still pretty dizzy and have lack of concentration.

I am thinking that they may need to take more out. When I went to get a pint taken out, the girl pricked my finger to test for something first and she said to me that some reading was at 19 and when she takes a pint out it will drop a point which would make it 18. She then said that most doctors want this number at 17 or below. Not sure what she was talking about.

Maybe I need to give it a little more time.

I know my doc wants me to get my cbc test done again before I go for a followup visit in 8 weeks.

**justtrnd40** · 06-16-2006, 06:06 AM

Hey Izicc, how are you feeling today. I've been very interested in your posts since I have pretty much the same problem. It can be a major ordeal with a doctor to pinpoint what causes fatigue and dizziness. I've been fighting it off and on for about 5yrs. The first 3 1/2 yrs I was doing absolutely no anabolics or gh or anything else for that matter. Every time I get BW my RBC count is a little high. I also have a redish tint to my skin sort of like a mild sunburn. Even with a tan. I had three Dr.s constantly telling me it was stress and anxiety and depression. I just gave up on them since I know that's not what is causing it. Hopefully the giving blood thing will help you out like it did marcus. If so that's what I'm going to try next. Good luck!

**lzicc** · 06-16-2006, 09:22 AM

Justtrn40, I am still feeling dizzy and a bit confused in my mind, but it does not seem as bad as it was, but it is not much better either. I've also noticed that I am a little shaky.

I went back to the docs yesterday and had my cbc done and am waiting to here the outcome of that. I will post when I find out.

I haven't had any noticable skin color change but I have noticed that after a heavy set of benchpress, my face and shoulders would be beet red. It goes away fairly quick though.

I think and hope alot of my problem was all the compounds in my body raising up my rbc. I will find out today if my rbc is still high. I just found out too that injectable b12 raises rbc and I was taking that also along with the test and eq.

Good luck bro.

I'll post back when I have an update.

**lzicc** · 06-17-2006, 03:59 PM

Update. I got my second cbc results and my rbc is down to normal (17). I have been feeling better, not 100%, but better. Being on pct and taking clomid may have something to do with the way I feel now also.

**marcus300** · 06-17-2006, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by lzicc

Update. I got my second cbc results and my rbc is down to normal (17). I have been feeling better, not 100%, but better. Being on pct and taking clomid may have something to do with the way I feel now also.

glad to hear it, excellent updates to your problem, its nice to get feedback

**lzicc** · 06-17-2006, 06:26 PM

One important thing I forgot to add, my bp is averaging 130/80. That is alot lower then what it was.

**musclehead1** · 06-17-2006, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by lzicc

Well, a day went by since I had the blood taken out and I am still pretty dizzy and have lack of concentration.

I am thinking that they may need to take more out. When I went to get a pint taken out, the girl pricked my finger to test for something first and she said to me that some reading was at 19 and when she takes a pint out it will drop a point which would make it 18. She then said that most doctors want this number at 17 or below. Not sure what she was talking about.

Maybe I need to give it a little more time.

I know my doc wants me to get my cbc test done again before I go for a followup visit in 8 weeks.

i think she pricked your finger to check your blood sugar level perhaps but i maybe wrong....its strange that a high rbc would make you feel tired considering a lot of athletes used to blood dope...what blood type are you i suffer from a too low of rbc maybe you could hook me up

jk