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    CollegeATH is offline New Member
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    Cycle for speed and strength

    hey bros, im 23 have 7 years of lifting experience, my stats are
    6.0ft 186 with 8.23% BF

    i have no cycle experience, have done short mohn with good strength gains.

    My question is... I know test should be the basis of all cycles not to mention what everyone should begin with; however, i am currentley involved in track,55, 100, 200. i cannot gain water weight! i grow very easyily. i need a first cycle that will add strength and speed without any "unwanted mass".

    anavar ?, t-bol?, winstrol ?(though i know its bad on joints) PCT?

    any help would be appreciated, i have a 8 week untested window!!!!

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    1buffsob is offline Mr.Modesty
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    Honestly, the best things for speed and strength and ones that don't aromatize (water weight), are compounds I wouldn't suggest to a novice. However, anavar should give you some decent strength with no to little water gain, and is fairly mild.

    You're 8 week window however, won't be long enough. Anavar needs to be run AT LEAST 6 weeks before results are seen, has a 3 week detection time, ....... and then PCT (which can be picked up in tests).

    It doesn't seem like you're in a sitiuation to do a proper cycle (test) or have the time to run one.

    1buffsob

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    no u need more time. 16 week window would not be long enoguh.

    to do a 10 weeks cycle, then pct starts 2 weeks after last shot and shall last 4 weeks.

    this is 16 weeks, plus maybe 4 weeks to clear your system. which is 20 weeks.

    no use in trying.

    use arginine, and some aminos.

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    peteroy01 is offline Senior Member
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    seems like ur caught between a rock and a hard place. what about IGF. they cant test for that can they. u wont get huge gains but take what u can get right.

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    CollegeATH is offline New Member
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    thanks, im out of college now and on a city club. i can take a half season off to "get ready" as some sprinters call it. besides i wont miss the big qualifying meets. if i do have a larger window 14-16 weeks max what would be the ideal?

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    I think Var would be a good choice.. halo can be considered as well..

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