Deca and Winnie a good cycle for novice

[southmadejd]

Hey everybody I just got out of the military and I ordered online at a webiste and got Deca and Winstrol Depot. Now this is actually going to be my first cycle and I was wondering if it is even a good cycle to do as a first one. Some people have told me that winnie doesn't really help out. I am 6'1" 215 lbs and my max bench is 300 lbs. I have only been lifting seriously for about 1 year. Could anybody help me with my questions? Thanks.

[HORSE~]

Your first cycle realy should be A test only cycle try reading this thread
Newbie's starter psck by: kale

You should also read up on pct
There is A forum dedicated pct check it out and make sure you understand it IMO pct is as imortant if not more so than your actual cycle

[albino-rhino]

I never understood why people buy their shit then do research and ask what to take????

Here:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=120894

Good luck!

[ascendant]

well, test is usually the most commonly suggested starter. personally, i would've suggested just starting out with a test compound and taking things from there.

i also wouldn't advise you to start with 2 different compounds. having never taken either of them, you won't know which one is doing what for you. some people respond better to certain kinds of gear, and by taking both, you won't know which one you responded better to and also if you get any sides, again, you won't know which one is causing them.

you might also want to post pics of the gear you got up in the pics area of this site to make sure it's legit. the majority of the internet companies sell bunk garbage, so i'd suggest you make sure you know what you're putting in your body.

maybe hold off a bit longer until you can get a test as a base for your cycle, and maybe either just wait to use those two or if you really want to, use test with either of those two. if you combine it with the deca though, make sure to use twice as much test per week as deca or you may have problems with an issue called "deca dick". never did myself personally, but i've heard plenty of other peoples experiences with it.

read the stickies in these forums, read the profiles section to learn more about the compounds you have, and maybe while you're trying to get a good cycle together, post your diet up in the diet forums section and my bro's here can help you with that.

oh, one last thing, do you have any chems for pct? if not, i'd advise doing research on that and getting some anti-e's for the end of your cycle. you can easily find very cheap chems at many reputable research labs and can even find one lab here on this site as a sponsor. they're the link in the top right corner of this site, arr research.

[MrMent1on]

Let me explain to you what these people didnt.. your fresh, your receptors are fresh. you can grow on very little. you dont want to saturate your receptors with all kinds of sh!t so your gain will be minimal early. all you need is test Enantate. I would start with just 1 bottle 1cc a week which is only 250mg a week for 10 weeks, take some time off then do it again with 2 shots a week thats 500mg say monday and thursday, the 3rd cycle I'd do d-bol and test, 4th cycle you can add the deca in. understand this. your like a person that is going to smoke weed for the first time 1 puff can fukc you up. then it takes more and more over time. I hope I explained it to your understanding.

[Random]

Good plan...also newbies usually dont incorporate proper Post Cycle Recovery and end up losing all their gains and have problems after....do some research on PCT as well and dont start your cycle without it on hand

[Bigmax]

Let me explain to you what these people didnt.. your fresh, your receptors are fresh. you can grow on very little. you dont want to saturate your receptors with all kinds of sh!t so your gain will be minimal early. all you need is test Enantate. I would start with just 1 bottle 1cc a week which is only 250mg a week for 10 weeks, take some time off then do it again with 2 shots a week thats 500mg say monday and thursday, the 3rd cycle I'd do d-bol and test, 4th cycle you can add the deca in. understand this. your like a person that is going to smoke weed for the first time 1 puff can fukc you up. then it takes more and more over time. I hope I explained it to your understanding.

i'll bump that bro!!!!

[eberasain]

i think you should take test. cyp. for 1 - 12 weeks at 500mg per week.

[albino-rhino]

Let me explain to you what these people didnt.. your fresh, your receptors are fresh. you can grow on very little. you dont want to saturate your receptors with all kinds of sh!t so your gain will be minimal early. all you need is test Enantate. I would start with just 1 bottle 1cc a week which is only 250mg a week for 10 weeks, take some time off then do it again with 2 shots a week thats 500mg say monday and thursday, the 3rd cycle I'd do d-bol and test, 4th cycle you can add the deca in. understand this. your like a person that is going to smoke weed for the first time 1 puff can fukc you up. then it takes more and more over time. I hope I explained it to your understanding.

All good advice above! But if I were you, I'd follow to this! Maybe start with 500mg of Test E a week for a first instead of 250mg. Either way.

[Apec]

Test E or maybe even Test Prop for him....I used Prop for my first cycle and it worked extremely well.

[Pillbass]

Whinny can be a little tricky to poke yourself with. Especially if it's real milky and you can't always see exactly how much is in the pin.

[Liftnainez]

Deca and Winny is a VERY COMMON cycle, but not the most optimal at all... Sides may arise that would easily be diminished by adding test.. Test E Deca would be better... you can also throw in some winny but I would leave that until later on..