Prop+Var... a O.K first cycle??

[daytrader]

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[tonytone]

i dont know man, are you ready to shoot that prop EOD? i dont really like prop eod, but it works.last time i ran prop it literally crippled me, and was one of the main factors in me ending my cycle early..but i was using homebrew prop that was slightly higher than 100mg/ml..next time i'll be brewing 75mg/ml and see if it works out better...for you i would recommend
1-12 test e/c @500mg/wk (250 mg every 3.5 days)
2-12 var @ 50mg day (optional)
its a longer acting ester, but much more suitable for a first cycle in my opinion

[Anabolios]

75mg ed var looks ok maybe bump to 50mg so about your question siiii senorr

[pumpd4lif]

first cycle stick with one compound i would just do a tes e cycle 500 mg a week 250 mg twice a week

[Anabolios]

first cycle stick with one compound i would just do a tes e cycle 500 mg a week 250 mg twice a week

you guys are recommending long esters but he clearly wants a short ester which is fine...test is test and var is a mild compound and fine to add into a first cycle for some lean gains

[SMAN12b]

Well I think it is good that you are waiting ( I HOPE)

You understand that PROP is best when shot EveryDay right? are you sure you want to do that everyday?

Most beginners choice a longer ester so they do less shots. Test E is shot twice a week
And most will tell you to do TEST only for your first so that you understand how it effects your body. If you take both test and var, you will not know how well one is for you and if you should use it or lose it for the next cycle

[tonytone]

you guys are recommending long esters but he clearly wants a short ester which is fine...test is test and var is a mild compound and fine to add into a first cycle for some lean gains

yes he wants to use prop, but im just warning him about possible things he could experience when using it..on my first cycle i sure as hell did not want to inject prop ED (or eod in this case).. had i done prop as my first cycle, the pain/soreness/utter incapacitation would probably steer me away from aas use for good..

[SMAN12b]

you guys are recommending long esters but he clearly wants a short ester which is fine...test is test and var is a mild compound and fine to add into a first cycle for some lean gains

Absolutely, Prop is a single ester Test!! It is fine IF he wants his first cycle to have that many shots. THUS we suggest the longer esters so that beginners dont' get anxiety over shooting everyday, But he can use Prop if he wants

[daytrader]

Well I think it is good that you are waiting ( I HOPE)

You understand that PROP is best when shot EveryDay right? are you sure you want to do that everyday?

Most beginners choice a longer ester so they do less shots. Test E is shot twice a week
And most will tell you to do TEST only for your first so that you understand how it effects your body. If you take both test and var, you will not know how well one is for you and if you should use it or lose it for the next cycle

yes im waiting... its hard but i am .... i heard prop is best used ED yes... i more or less just want to do var... and would be running the prop like a "maintnence test".... that is why im going with the short ester as opposed to test e or cyp....i really dont mind poking myself.... actually my BF is a registered nurse so he could help me at afirst.....
tonytone ive heard that b4 bro.... couple guys said it hurst so bad they had to skip a leg workout... shit... thatll def be something for me to think about

[mwolffey]

you guys are recommending long esters but he clearly wants a short ester which is fine...test is test and var is a mild compound and fine to add into a first cycle for some lean gains

i agree to a point...but unless he is a pro at injections, i would not reccomend prop....he needs to have some injection experience first....but this could be solved with shots of b12...jmo, good luck daytrader

[tonytone]

tonytone ive heard that b4 bro.... couple guys said it hurst so bad they had to skip a leg workout... shit... thatll def be something for me to think about

shit, in my 8wks on that cycle i only worked out legs 5 times i think..but working out legs was the least of my concerns..i was more concerned with simple things like walking, getting up from a chair, getting into my car, and the like...doing all these everyday things became a very painful experience...but if you want to try it, go for it..let us know what you think

[SMAN12b]

yes im waiting... its hard but i am .... i heard prop is best used ED yes... i more or less just want to do var... and would be running the prop like a "maintnence test".... that is why im going with the short ester as opposed to test e or cyp....i really dont mind poking myself.... actually my BF is a registered nurse so he could help me at afirst.....
tonytone ive heard that b4 bro.... couple guys said it hurst so bad they had to skip a leg workout... shit... thatll def be something for me to think about

If you choose the prop, you can always dilute or "CUT" it with B-12 to help lessen the pain

[notanormalgent]

If you decide to use propionate, I've heard really good things about Farmak being virtually painless. I would recommend:
Test Propionate 50mg/ED
Anavar 50mg/ED
and either run Proviron 25mg/ED or Arimidex .5/ED after the third day.

Everyone says that you should just stick to one compound for your first cycle, but since Anavar is so mild I don't think it'll be an issue as far as being concerned where the side effects are coming from.

[fatback25]

If he can get a hold of certain props then it should be no sweat. Dude seee if you can finf Farmak or Farmadon. Ran it before and It was absolutely painless.

[daytrader]

sweettt... i love you guys

[RIZ]

var and prop is a good choice for a first cycle of lean gains u can do 100mg eod and that will be jus fine see if u can get ur hands on btc 10mg var great results from that best get used to being a pin cushion now

[notanormalgent]

var and prop is a good choice for a first cycle of lean gains u can do 100mg eod and that will be jus fine see if u can get ur hands on btc 10mg var great results from that best get used to being a pin cushion now

I think you meant BTG, which was actually sold and is now under the Savient label.

[Rizmon]

Yes Btg Ill Still Get Them From Some Guy With Aids

[kalla]

shoot the prop ed and var 50 mg ed. U will love this cycle good choice if u can handle the shots

[SVTMuscle*]

I'd use the Var at 50mg ED at least.
Also, I would use Test E so you gotta shoot it less often and less painful