Thread: Hcg = Gyno???
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06-22-2006, 09:18 PM #1
Hcg = Gyno???
I heard from many that when they ran hcg during pct. they got gyno. Anyone else have this happen???
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06-22-2006, 09:47 PM #2
Try reading the profile offered to you by this site
Here's the link
Anabolic Review Profile: HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadatropin)
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06-22-2006, 09:49 PM #3
That will answear your question
You Just gota read
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06-23-2006, 10:45 AM #4
hcg is NOT a PCT drug.... it's a during cycle drug
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06-23-2006, 11:09 AM #5
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Originally Posted by J*U*icEd
you will get lots of debate on this statement.
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06-23-2006, 10:57 PM #6
Originally Posted by J*U*icEd
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06-24-2006, 01:36 AM #7
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Originally Posted by J*U*icEd
Its both.
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06-24-2006, 04:10 AM #8
Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
It can be used very effectively whilst "on" and during PCT IMO.
And yes...It will raise estrogen levels which in turn, may lead to gyno. This is why an AI is used during PCT to lower already high estrogen levels. A SERM can also be used. During PCT estrogen is elevated and exogenous testosteorne ended, thats if the cycle contained testosterone . We now must use PCT to reach endogenous testosterone levels again.
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06-24-2006, 04:22 AM #9
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I wouldnt use hcg during PCT because you still have to recover from the hcg thats why it should be used during cycle usinghcg in your pct is a temporary solution only
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06-24-2006, 04:29 AM #10
Originally Posted by Titan1
As far as I know it, using HCG with Nolva will not inhibit the production of any naturally produced ganadotropins during PCT. Its not a quick answer at all.
Effect of an antiestrogen on the testicular response to acute and chronic administration of hCG in normal and hypogonadotropic hypogonadic men: tamoxifen and testicular response to hCG.
Levalle OA, Suescun MO, Fiszlejder L, Aszpis S, Charreau E, Guitelman A, Calandra R.
Division Endocrinologia, Hospital Carlos Durand, Instituto de Biologia y Medicina Experimental, Buenos Aires, Argentina.
The effect of the antiestrogen tamoxifen (Tx) on the acute and chronic hCG administration was evaluated in patients with hypogonadotropic hypogonadism (HH) and in normal men. An hCG test (5000 IU hCG) was performed before, after two months of hCG administration (2000 IU hCG three times weekly) and after two months of hCG + Tx (2000 IU hCG three times weekly plus 20 mg/day of tamoxifen). Blood samples were obtained before and following 24 and 72 h of every test to determine T, E, 17OHP and SHBG. T increased only in HH with both treatments (X +/- SEM: Basal: 97.9 +/- 19.7; hCG: 237.7 +/- 43.2; hCG +/- Tx: 204.7 +/- 10.7 ng/100 ml). 17OHP rose with hCG alone, but not with hCG + Tx in both groups. E, SHBG and 17OHP/T ratio did not change after treatments. hCG tests: E increased 24 h following hCG administration in every test. The ratio 17OHP/T rose at 24 h in the first and second test but in the third test it did not change. These results support the role of E in the acute hCG-induced Leydig cell desensitization. However, the association of Tx does not improve T serum levels, suggesting that E might not be the unique factor involved in the mechanisms for testicular desensitization.
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06-24-2006, 07:08 AM #11
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I have read that it aromitizes easy and if you use small amounts more often like 500mg eod during pct you should be fine but thats just what i read on this site. im no expert
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06-24-2006, 09:41 AM #12
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